That means the output from ITCH is summed with the Mic and Aux input when in THRU mode, rather than muting ITCH as it does now.

You're right, this gives a zero latency option for the Mic, but note that in doing this you'll have no software FX or EQ on the Mic (which is fine, given reducing the latency is more important).

throwing hands up in frustration....

itch is becoming a series of 'need new hardware to get it to work right'

I guess unfortunately there is no way to offer a downloadable for hardware changes ;)

To me it looks like they have tried to address the issues with a software fix wherever possible (Headphone Boost for example).

But I agree that some of the given flaws have not been found out with the first iteration of the software.... the platter adjustment pots. I never understand why they built in pots for which you need a screwdriver to adjust them.

Hardware improves/gets cheaper over time, in the very nature of industry.

@ kraal

my NS7 works just right to me.

yeah actually that was sorta joking cause if they never emplemented thos fixes i would of never even cared..... and as for the adjustable touch screws i already have some waiting as spares for $0.27 cets each :)

when will the new vci 300 ship and how much will it cost?

lol

:)

Where is that new VCI-300 ??

Link in the first post.

The youtube doesn't work anymore... Plus i cant find any info on Scratchworks web site... Unless am not checking in the right place.

Indeed. Very strange.

Daamn, anyone downloaded the video?
I'm this <-> close to buying one today and if this is true Im going to wait.

It seems every reference to the vci-300 mk2 has been removed from the net?!

I was hoping for a Vestax or Serato Mod to pitch in to confirm if this is fake or not...

If it had been a fake, then dave would had mentioned it.

i really hope they are not getting info removed from the net so that people aren't put off buying the current version - that would just be wrong. Plus the not knowing for sure is the thing making we wait - if they just came out and confirmed its existence, but told us it may not be for a while then I'll just get the current version and sell it on when required...(and if it is soon.. that's a win for them anyway)

Oh man....your going on like it the mk2 had loads of life changing features......why wait?

I think when they initially put it out there it was mainly for reactions and input. It's been done before by other companies. Just an educated guess at this point.

yeah it prob isnt even in production yet a prototypw to see what people thing

nah, but if i'm gonna lay down £600 on new equipment, then I would like to know that a new version (without the annoying mic delay - which i've experienced on a mates unit) isn't just around the corner

if it is a while away, then like i said, i would be "happy" to get the current version as its a solid piece of kit (apart from the mic - which i had to put into the main mixer - which kind of defeats the purpose of a one unit + laptop setup that is perfect for house parties and such)

still no guarantee the mic delay is gone :)

Good for the newbs but for us early adopters I dont think it offers enough to go ebay the one I own and cop the newer one.

Why is that?

cause it isnt out yet to be confirmed

What is yet not confirmed?

sorry i meant not yet out.... i am still not convinced my echo issue isnt software releated.... my mic works fine but leave it plugged in but volume down after about an hour the echo shows up

There is your fix... the mic In bypasses the software ;)

ah i get it .... sorry i didn't pit that togther till you flat out said it :)

Did anyone think to include XLR outputs this time?

no its not a complete rework to be exact you can prob mod your own vci-300

As usual, Vestax can't keep a lid on a damned thing, especially when they allow Japanese dealers to film stuff too. Sometimes I just want to shake them.

This is real, but likely to be a future release rather than anything imminent. It's just a logical update based on user feedback.

Hm, sorry, skratchworx, I read your comment to check out the youtube channel of that dealer and stumbled across it. :-(

I used a wireless shure mic with my vci at a wedding and experienced no latency whatsoever

Hey, I was looking for info on this recently, too.

Where the hell is it? It was on display at Winter NAMM 2010 back in January. The sensitivity dials on the MK1 are unbelievable cheap garbage that break off damn near just touching them. Vestax, you have fixed this with the VCI-300A MK2. Instead of hiding the video how about actually putting the MK2 out for sell. I'm getting impatient. BRING IT!!!!!

I've had my VCI-300 for a little over a year now, and it's come in handy in lots of different situations. I like it a lot, but it could be better.

The improvements we're hoping to see in an updated version would make it easier to recommend to those who ask me about my current model. I'm sure I'd still hang on to mine for a while, and consider upgrading it later, but I tell people who ask to hold off and wait to see what's next.

With regards to the Mic Delay Can I point you to some testing I have done and a response from Vestax saying they are looking into it

www.serato.com

oh boy :/

I haven't heard anything about this recently. Is it out or still coming out?

-KLH

i didnt think it was on display just a japanesse video was released and the killed

^ Ok. It was probably a "let's get feedback if we did this" kind of stunt. Smart, actually.

-KLH

i wonder if it isnt just a custom japanesse model... you know like there are different games systems available only in japan

Not sure I agree with you as a smart move. I think it would probably slow sales of the original vci-300. An example of this is that I'm not buying an iphone 3GS because I heard the new one is out soon. Same goes with cars, electronics etc.

Yeap,

I think the same is happening to the NS7. My friend was going to get one since he saw me using my ns7 but when the V7 came out he is not waiting to put all the money together to buy the V7 rather. Even when it is more expensive and will do the same as the NS7.

I bet 3/4 of the people reading this thread will wait for that thing to come out. Those owners of VCI 300 that have'nt bought the VFX-1 will surely wait for this one.

i doubt vestax will release a unit with both the vci-300 and vfx-1 combined. other than the output volume i still think vestax and xone did a better job of planning thier release.... i mean look at the redesign of the ns7 to me it equates to back pedalling. make an all in one unit then break it apart. make a seperate effects controller (with less controlss than the othe effect units out there) then incorporate it.... basically flooding your own market with your own gear

about the first part.. a VCI with fx included would be nice. the current set up is not very inspiring. IMO

the second comment; I have to agree and disagree. the breaking the unit into three pieces was just what people were concerned about. "what if only the (right) deck fails" and also gives way to incorporate V7's at clubs and venues.. now for the effects I agree and also not having a sampler option is again a choice a lot of us took knowing what we were getting into..

on another note.. for me VDJ works like a charm..

czar we are again saying the same thing... the ns7 prob should of been released as the v7 to begin with

and if you havent used the vfx-1 you would see that that and the vci-300 is teally intuitive and works well together

aren't the two V7's and the mixer larger and heavier than the NS7?

3 v7's and a mixer about 40lbs the ns7 36.6

2 v7's and a mixer not 3
i was thinking 3 units

lol im way lazy right now to actually read and add but thanks. :)

also, if you link the v7s together you have a total of 4 virtual decks. each works as two on its own, not to mention you can use two computers. just saying. its almost a lateral move...slightly forward. i have a vci 300/vfx and am going to swap out to dual v7s because i miss the torq and 2 v7s and a mixer weigh the same as one of my stanton str8 150s its still a bargain on the back

you only have 4 decks by using 2 laptops

good point. hopefully along with unicorn casting. itch 2.0 makes 2 x v7=4 x virtual deck. that serato magic to slay the traktor pro beast

Thread ressurection...

VCI-300A, MKII, whatever...any news?

Nope. That's why the thread was dead.

If there is we'll let you know.

I wouldn't hold your breath. If you're after a VCI-300, the updates are minor and shouldn't stop you buying it now.

enough with this thread already.. sheesh. im SURE if any new controllers come out, there will be threads popping up about them... no need to speculate or keep bringing up this nonsense.

It's here! Threads-a-poppin'!

www.skratchworx.com <- click.

There it is.

Wowow i though that was an urban legend...

Fantastic, this means the VCI-300MKII will be a bit better then the one already on the market.

Good new's for VCI lovers.

I'll get one when Vestax comes out with a 4-channel, xlr out and xlr mic in. :)

yeah it would be nich to have four line faders and access to four decks :)

With Efx.

doesnt need the effects included if it just adds the 2 xtra line faders

Why not with the efx built in? I'm not really into the 4 deck solution. I love my VCI-300 but it's nice to see that the efx controler are built in.

mainly cause the vfx-1 is so nice. i plan to get an ns7 so i would use the unit interchangably. and right now seeing that all they sell is the ns7fx that has got me looking towards something else cause the extra price for a unit i dont plan on using is one of the reasons i have yet to get an ns7.

krall the whole point is portability and simplicity... carrying around one unit is easier than two... and saves a usb port.

For you maybe. My point us quality djing I got a 7 USB powered hub. I am more interested in effecient djing that saving USB port or space

dude im not going to argue with you about what you would like vs. what i would like... there is no point... however, i think new buyers would rather buy a more complete all in one unit.

I'm surprised they don't include a USB-in on the new units to allow you to daisy chain.

your the one that used my name so that meant you were specifically talking to me

oh i was, but it was about the product's marketability, not our personal feelings...

right so that was a side note about me personally .... not about the grand scheme off marketable products :)

For me I rather have an all in one solution VCI-300fx and I'm not gonna change my opinion on that.

my main issue reasoning is with the closed system of itch. i would rather not have to keep buying all in ones :) so if i upgrade the basic controller then i can keep my preferred effects unit --- again not talking down anyone elses opinion just explaining mine

I totally respect that....I'm just saying they can come up with just a simple solution to integrate it on a New version of the VCI-300....Adding a couple of knobs and a button to trigger wouldn't hurt. Before making the VCI-300 do they new about the FX probably not and if ITCH decided to have more functions only time can tell.

I understand that with the Technology we have now we can see ITCH improving almost every quarter......Who would've thought about Scratchlive's improvements would go this far.....I feel that My Trigger Finger is getting obsolete with all the improvements that they are coming up with.

i also believe in the importance of posting opinions and why in threads like this. you never know who is reading and it may help influence the next controller be-it from vestax or some one else

I know users like us has a big role when it comes to decision making, be it on the part of the manufacturer or the software developer....Every opinion counts there is a bunch of feature request on scratchlive but most of the users wanted it as simple and reliable as possible before adding a well thought off request.

I've seen requests that has been debated over the threads. One good example is the Cover Art there are a few faithful that pushed this Request and it took a about a year or two for them to decide that they will add it.

ok kraal, in your opinion... would you buy a new vci-300mk2? like are you actually planning on it? im just curious...

i personally dont have a need to. i have '[Borat voice] great success' with the vci-300 as it is. i like that the sound might be better with higher outputs... i like the idea of jog control... but its mostly the same. thats why i believe the vast majority of sales will be attributed to first time buyers. we're getting converts from virtual dj left and right, and others.... so thats why i am thinking the way i do... that there should be an all in one unit.

not sure if I will purchase the new vci-300 or any other hardware for Itch, at least not until both the software and hardware has everything that I want. This one to one mapping is starting not to look so hot, why not just make the jogs, faders and play functions one to one and open everything else up. sorry for drifting off topic

ok if something happens to my vci-300 i would love to get the vci-300mk2

as far as right now i see no reason to purchase it cause the vci-300 work fine for me.
if given the choice then the mk2 is excellent

i guess the v7 is throwing my off on the effectiveness of putting effect on the unit. the v7 and possibly even the xone from what i read is limited compared to the vfx-1 (no two effect per one deck no effects on the mic, no post fader effects)



i would have to agree with this to a degree ... even tho serato claims it is not the case serato ITCH is a lot like the apple iphone. as the os improves the hardware becomes obsolete. the 4 deck feature has made every other controller other than the xone 'crippled' a few more 'advances' and you will be forced to purchase new controllers. San's portability turntables and any simple midi controller will always trump ITCH as the better investment untill something gives in this area

vci-300 mkII is on the vestax website available in july.

Do we know yet how much of an output boost the VCI300 MK2 will be? Depending on the price of the MK2 I would definitely put my VCI300 on ebay to get the new one just for the increased output when plugged in.

good news:



(taken from another forum section)

Sounds very nice, but seriously, what use is updated hardware on an integrated system when there are no software updates? I don't want a VCI300 Mk2 if I still have to use the existing ITCH software, with Serato being so inexplicably tight-lipped about the updates they're taking great pains to NOT release. I'm not trying to troll or be an *ss, I think this is a genuine problem. All the forum help is so apologetic. 'Why can't I (insert problem here)?' 'Because we never told ITCH how to do it!' ... Not. Good. Enough.

Where is ITCH 2.0 (announced AUGUST 2009)? Where is The Bridge (Demo'd at NAMM back in JANUARY)? Where are the Beat Grids for ALL controllers? Why does the Auto Sync not work and ruin the mix? Why is there a tap tempo that doesn't work when I should just be able to just type a value and TELL the software what the tempo is? Why when I put my own compositions in ITCH does it get the tempo out by around 60 beats per minute, when Traktor gets it within 3-4 beats per minute?

ITCH is hardware and software that's integrated, so why can't we have updates and fixes for the software, which currently does not deliver what it says it can? Serato don't have to hide the software updates because without the hardware you can't use the software anyway! And they have already released different versions for different controllers, so why not just let whichever one is finished out of the stable? At least then I could get excited, seeing what's coming to the VCI300.

I love my VCI300, I really do, the hardware is beautiful and fun to use and the platters are sublime, but that's Vestax's doing. ITCH is not worthy of the hardware and Serato's tight-lipped attitude is, frankly, obtuse when you consider how chronically outperformed they are by Traktor. Chronically outperformed.

I'll say it again, what use is new hardware when the software is not being updated? I hope somebody from Serato answers this question because I've just discovered that it is possible to link Traktor to Ableton Live, so I have no reason to wait for The Bridge and, honestly, no real reason to use ITCH anymore if it's not going to be updated. I use ITCH and I use Traktor and, right now, Traktor is the professional and ITCH is sitting on the kid's table.

cause i am sure the software is being developed and when it is ready for public consumption it will be released. wasn't there a public beta just released?

That's not really enough of an answer though, is it... Being 'sure' without actually knowing means nothing. Serato have given no solid information as to what ITCH 2.0 will do that the existing version doesn't.

Plenty of things are being developed, but announcing ITCH 2.0 a year ago and then leaving everyone hanging is really poor when there are so many issues to address. So again, why release new hardware when there's so much work to do on the software?

I was under the impression that the last public beta was Scratch 2.0, not ITCH 2.0. I could be wrong, though.

itch is behind ssl itch last public beta was 1.7

it's enough for me knowing it was anounced and coming

My sarcasm meter just jumped...

Seriously lets look at some fact's....my dates are from memory please forgive if I am off a little

Traktor - introduced 2000
Virtual DJ - introduced 2003
SSL - introduced 2004
ITCH - introduced 2008

Which software do you think will be more "mature" (more features)?

Software\Hardware takes time to develop PERIOD

If your unhappy with what ITCH has to offer, don't use it. I do understand that there might be frustration when features are announced, but seriously these takes time and resources to develop. When the new features come I am happier to know that they will work as oppose to released prematurely, where then it can experience issues.

I'm tired of reading these threads on what ITCH isn't......you should never buy anything on what it can potentially do. Buy on what it does currently PERIOD

Hey Stylus,

First up, if you have issues with your VCI-300 with ITCH, then of course, you have a right to be upset. Please start a help thread here www.serato.com and one of our product specialists will help you out.

We are always updating ITCH, in fact we've never stopped since we started working on it years ago. We've had a number of updates for the VCI-300 since it came out (all free to download), and the next one, ITCH 1.7, is currently in Public Beta. You can read about how to access the 1.7 public beta here: serato.com. ITCH 1.7 addresses some of the issues you mentioned.

Are these the standard Jogs on the MKII?

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No, this is a special edition.

right and didnt they decide to use those for the typhoon