ITCH General Discussion

Talk about ITCH - Serato's new DJ product

Suggestions for future updates...

So after 2 weeks / 5 events I have to say the software is super reliable & great, but not perfect... Here are my small suggestions:

1. As soon as you load a track, it turns yellow... Lots of times I preview the tracks without actually playing them. This messes up the (already played songs) feature, since most of my songs turned yellow without actually playing them, just cause I previewed them. Traktor has a feature, where the song won't show s already played, unless half of it has been played, or something of that nature... Please fix this...

2. Build overview - I could not find a way of building overviews when the unit is connected. You have to disconnect it, to build the overviews. Unless there's something I dont know, this is a horrible feature, since I would like to analyze some last minute songs on the fly, when I'm already playing.

3. Already suggested, but a star rating tag would be great... to rate songs from 1 to 5 stars, so best songs are always easy to find.

4. There should be a way of browsing songs from a folder, without adding it to crates, that allows you to see tag information, such as the bpm of the song if it's within the tag. What I mean is a browse folder feature, and not an import feature. In other words, if you could add a folder as a crate, it would be great, or an auto update crate feature. This would be the most useful... A crate that updates itself with new songs when added to a specific folder... I'll leave the solution to the developers, but a feature of this nature is greatly needed.

Thanks...





At 5:59 PM 1 September 2008
DJ Xio wrote
I think there are some workarounds for them:

2. I'm pretty sure that you can build overviews on the fly (i've seen this option in a settings window). Another suggestion is to use SSL on the background.

3. You can use iTunes smart playlists for this, although I agree that rating implementation in ITCH would be great.

4. As I remember you was able to drag folder to Serato window and it appeared as a crate.
At 8:17 AM 2 September 2008
antonborisov wrote
1. The mark should be about 6 seconds before a color change. If you can't tell by the first few bars... Anyways, I think a better solution would be to add something that clocks the position of the faders, so that if the chan.fader is up and the crossfader cuts in the track color changes. If the crossfader position is even .01% open or the channel fader is raised even .01% during track-preview, the color changes. Something like that.

2. Uuh, yeah!

3. iTunes - UMM NO THANK YOU (no offense, and not open for debate in this thread). The suggestion is for a SERATO (bold / underlined / highlighted) S E R A T O rating system for all tracks in the library. I'd like to see how far you can go with this, because you already have the best library management for tracks out of any program on the market, including the aforementioned iTunes.

4. Serato, could you just pay nik39 and them already and incorporate ScratchTools into the Serato Software empire????????????????
At 4:00 PM 2 September 2008
cMo wrote
Many of these suggestions have already been suggested in the ScratchLIVE forum.
At 2:38 AM 3 September 2008
DeezNotes wrote
Great, then hopefully we'll get an update sooner!
At 5:00 AM 3 September 2008
DJ Xio wrote
Hi
here is my suggestion.
it should be better if the big Cue bottom could be the CUE1 because its the Cue1 wich is memorised..
And when I call the song, I want to start from cue1 and to go on cue1 when I push the Big Cue bottom (like a CDJ for exemple)
I hope you anderstand me because I'm french.excuse my english if it's not good.
thanks
At 6:07 AM 11 September 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
DJ's using VCI-300:

Are you OK with my suggestion (the last before this post) ??
At 11:08 AM 12 September 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
Me? Not really.
At 11:51 AM 12 September 2008
DeezNotes wrote
i would like to suggest that they add effects filters such as those you find on an efx-1000.
also the option to disable the crossfader.
At 6:35 AM 13 September 2008
dubside wrote
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Many of these suggestions have already been suggested in the ScratchLIVE forum.

Actually all.
At 8:17 AM 15 September 2008
nik39 wrote
Hi
now that I bought the VCI-300, I agree with you DeezNotes.

The CUE point is not a problem with the Big Cue bottom.

When I call a song wich has a "first cue point", the song is stoped before playing on this "first cue point".
At this moment I puch the Big CUE bottom before playing the song and then its go back to this point when I puch the big CUE bottom while the song is playing.

Now my suggestion is to have a sampler to play Jingles or accapella

Thanks
At 8:31 AM 16 September 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
How about having the mic input acually work the way it"s supposed to? This way when you speak there is no delay.
At 2:09 PM 16 September 2008
eddietully wrote
Have a way to seperate the output channels so you could adjust the volume on a monitor.
At 2:18 PM 16 September 2008
eddietully wrote
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How about having the mic input acually work the way it"s supposed to? This way when you speak there is no delay.

Lame this doesnt sound like fun, i hope its a software update fix.
At 2:52 PM 16 September 2008
DJCheLu wrote
Yes, the mic input has a horrible delay!
At 4:50 PM 18 September 2008
DJ Xio wrote
Wait, what about line-in (not in thru mode)?
At 6:08 PM 18 September 2008
antonborisov wrote
on my mac...i dont notice a delay?
At 1:22 AM 19 September 2008
Dj Ace wrote
hi.. just got my vci300 2 days ago and have say it's great stuff.
me too i agree with some of the above suggestions for future updates.
these are all mine (including some already listed):
- pitch control... +/- 6 maybe could be improved with a "double %" option: +/- 12
- when loading a track, it becomes yellow and remain that colour even if, for
example, i load a wrong track and then replace it. so after an hour (or few drinks)
i will not remember wich one i really played or just load for mistake or to check it.
- me too cannot build overview while playing
- id leave "jack out" for a "main out" and find a solution to use "rca out" for booth/monitor speaker.
- is it possible to "uninstall"... (i mean to swithc off) the crossfader?
- VERTICAL CENTRAL wave display (like in serato scratch if i remember well) was very cool
- also, maybe adding an "A" on the left wave and a "B" on the right wave (A deck, B deck... load into A... load into B... you get it?)
...
that's it for me.... but stuff is really great like this too ehhe!

bye
At 10:49 AM 20 September 2008
fabry wrote
Hi DJ's..!

- Yes for the idea of switching off the cross-fader in the setup of ITCH, I agree.
- Is it possible to add a zoom on the Fonts like in SSL 1.8.2.
- My best Dream is to add a sampler to play Jingles or acapella in the mix

Thanks for the Serato's team to make my dream come true….lol..!

Dj 2ni from France
At 12:05 PM 22 September 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
Hi..!

is it possible to have a 3 band EQ on the mic input, in ITCH, like with a mixer (low/mid/hi) to have a good voice in a party, to be abble to adjust the sound of the mic in a live party.

Thanks
At 5:44 AM 14 October 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
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Hi..!

is it possible to have a 3 band EQ on the mic input, in ITCH, like with a mixer (low/mid/hi) to have a good voice in a party, to be abble to adjust the sound of the mic in a live party.

Thanks

I think that's a good idea.
At 12:27 PM 14 October 2008
DeezNotes wrote
yes, because I am forced to use another mixer to adjust only the DJ's mic.

If there is a 3 band Eq, I do not have to take it with me, I just put my Mic on the VCI and ajust it and go to the amplifier then.
At 2:13 PM 14 October 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
Do you guys mean like the EQ that comes up on screen if you push the 'MIC/AUX' button? (it's on the top-right, next to the search panel)
At 9:21 PM 14 October 2008
Pene wrote

Serato, Moderator
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Do you guys mean like the EQ that comes up on screen if you push the 'MIC/AUX' button? (it's on the top-right, next to the search panel)

It's such a good idea, they've already thought of it!!! =P
At 1:26 AM 15 October 2008
DeezNotes wrote
ok heres mine holding shift and down on the little scroll wheel to scroll in increments of ten when selecting music. thats my request.

so instead of holding the down wheel part of the scroll wheel forever to get to the bottom of the list, i can hit shift and down to make it can jump in increments of 10. This is also helpful in selecting the bpm section of the browse menu. so that I dont wait that long to select a different bpm. hope thats clear.
At 3:24 AM 15 October 2008
oh and some visual feedback on the crossfader curve and the up fader curve. you know some numbers or colors or something like on the DJM 909 that would be killer and more useful to set a preferred setting on the curve.
At 3:36 AM 15 October 2008
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Do you guys mean like the EQ that comes up on screen if you push the 'MIC/AUX' button? (it's on the top-right, next to the search panel)


It's avaliable for adjust the Mic for live set, I thoucht It was just for adjust to recording...!
At 1:05 PM 15 October 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
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ok heres mine holding shift and down on the little scroll wheel to scroll in increments of ten when selecting music. thats my request.

so instead of holding the down wheel part of the scroll wheel forever to get to the bottom of the list, i can hit shift and down to make it can jump in increments of 10. This is also helpful in selecting the bpm section of the browse menu. so that I dont wait that long to select a different bpm. hope thats clear.

Why not just use the scroll function? It's a much better solution that's already there IMO.
At 1:20 PM 15 October 2008
DeezNotes wrote
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ok heres mine holding shift and down on the little scroll wheel to scroll in increments of ten when selecting music. thats my request.

so instead of holding the down wheel part of the scroll wheel forever to get to the bottom of the list, i can hit shift and down to make it can jump in increments of 10. This is also helpful in selecting the bpm section of the browse menu. so that I dont wait that long to select a different bpm. hope thats clear.


Why not just use the scroll function? It's a much better solution that's already there IMO.


scroll you say? maybe I need to RTFM
At 6:51 PM 15 October 2008
I don't know if this was fixed in the new beta release but having the three cue colors match from harward to monitor would be good. Hardware Red, Orange, and Blue. Software Red, Orange and Green?
At 11:40 PM 15 October 2008
Donato wrote
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ok heres mine holding shift and down on the little scroll wheel to scroll in increments of ten when selecting music. thats my request.

so instead of holding the down wheel part of the scroll wheel forever to get to the bottom of the list, i can hit shift and down to make it can jump in increments of 10. This is also helpful in selecting the bpm section of the browse menu. so that I dont wait that long to select a different bpm. hope thats clear.



Why not just use the scroll function? It's a much better solution that's already there IMO.



scroll you say? maybe I need to RTFM

To save you some page flipping, press the scroll button so it's highlighted and spin either of the platters. Have fun.
At 5:11 AM 16 October 2008
DeezNotes wrote
Being able to change the size of the album art would be excellent. It's too tiny right now. A scalable window would be perfect.
At 11:49 AM 12 November 2008
dr pokoly wrote
What s about Monitor PFL Split?just to hear a both decks in a cue mode left one in the left ear right deck in a right ear....

Most of mixers have this function...
At 10:25 PM 12 November 2008
Kunststoff wrote
I would like these features:

Improved punchier EQ *(more db)
A way to shut off the crossfader
A way to disable the cue/ play buttons with a shift command ...
A way to route the outputs of each deck to separate outs (example: left deck (rca outs)
Right decks (1/ 4 outs)
Braking knob control on VCI-300 unit
split cue on headphone
midi out
At 9:54 AM 13 November 2008
seratosnatch wrote
My biggest request would be to see the pitch % at a higher resolution than .1%

I was told that with vci300 it actually tracks at .02%, so it would be cool to see that.

(Wont get my vci300 till saturday, so this is just speculation from screencaps I have seen)
At 2:44 PM 13 November 2008
tektite wrote
did anybody already suggest having the 'full wave form view' lined up with the regular wave form view?

like in scratch live, they are both lined up together? in itch i have the wave forms going on the right side of the screen, but the full wave view is one the bottom, above the tracks. i can see my cue pts easier instead of looking up and down on my screen.
At 4:13 PM 13 November 2008
DJPHLIPZ wrote

- possibility to use the VCI-300 as a fully mixer with two seperate line-ins (please tell them at vestax)

- Switch off the crossfader by software!!

- 5 star rating like in iTunes


At 4:02 PM 14 November 2008
Dj Robin wrote
- open the internal routing so each individual channel can be sent to ableton..

- Preset option to kill the post-fader routing to the Master output so with the above option ableton can be used effectively as an effects loop.. To eliminate two of the same signals stacking at the pre-master (one from itch and one from ableton)

- Midi tempo send , with the tempo send data gathered from the track currently playing... (where as if two tracks are playing, have the option to automatically send the tempo data opposite of your selected "CUE")
At 9:55 PM 14 November 2008
jayo wrote
Hi

- Is it possible to have a shortcut on the Keybord of the PC to mute on/off the MIC..?
- another shortcut to switch off/on the crossfader

r
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Big thanks to the ITCH TEAM...!
You make very good job..!

DJ 2ni from France
At 3:37 PM 15 November 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
I agree with most of the suggestions here one I see a lot is the option to be able to turn off the fader, why would you want to be able to do that?

I would also like to see the following (I like the SHIFT button):

1. SHIFT + CUE If you have a CUE point already created with the temp CUE button if you press SHIFT + CUE it copies the cue point to an available empty hot cue. So that if its a good loop point, you can instantly get back to the start of you loop without losing your mix or SHIFT + CUE can create a new cue point if there is already one exsisting while the song is playing

2. SHIFT + PLAY would be like a HOT start from the temporary CUE point or the last CUE point you just played from (like a stutter and Play)

3. SHIFT + Autoloop does a loop roll or auto roll

4. Hitting SHIFT + SHIFT together to enable/disable hiding both your track names so you don't have to do the DJ AM trick on the BPM TAPS, would be much faster, when unscrupulous characters enter the DJ booth

I am a Virtual DJ user and it has some MP3 management features that are unbelievably useful, some similar features in ITCH would be great like:

5. Whichever song is highlighted in you library press a keyboard key combination adds the song to Temp Create or I guess the Prepare Crate, that way if you come across a song you want to play later you can easily find it. (or maybe SHIFT + TAB Circle combination on the hardwarecontroller)

6. Being able to output a crate contents or your review crate to M3U file or just a simple text file, so that you can easily save a playlist. (An automatic feature like Virtual Dj would be really good, it essentially automatically crates a new playlist file everytime you start the software). There have been many times when I refer to a set I played using VDJ a year ago!

7. (suggested earlier) Songs go yellow way to fast, it should not be considered play until the fader is moved or after a predetermined time (10 seconds maybe). Or if it is not played it automatically goes to that Temp crate I suggested in #4

8. (suggested earlier) you should able to Hide the crates on the left side of the screen to maximize your song library realestate

9. One feature I really like in VDJ that would be nice here is even if you are in a crate and you are doing a search, there should be a line below the results, and below this line it should show you all the other results from the rest of your library (very useful when you have a big library and you forget about songs especially other remixs that you may have forgoten about)

10. I am using GlobalFX to play samples and jingles, being able to do this within ITCH would be very useful

11. Some functionality to show you all the songs that are in your library but the file is missing, so you can fix them all at the same time, instead of waiting for when you are at a gig and you realize your file is missing then you have to do a search manually.



Thats it for now! I look forward to ITCH 2.0 and for that matter Scratch 2.0
At 7:28 PM 15 November 2008
Dj Beware wrote
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4. Hitting SHIFT + SHIFT together to enable/disable hiding both your track names so you don't have to do the DJ AM trick on the BPM TAPS, would be much faster, when unscrupulous characters enter the DJ booth


I did some further reading and I figured out AM has nothing to do with DJ AM it stands for "antitrainspotting mode" just wanted to clear that up!
At 12:42 AM 16 November 2008
Dj Beware wrote
Ok so I did some readint and I figured out that I could do some of these things I guess a little RTFM helps!

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5. Whichever song is highlighted in you library press a keyboard key combination adds the song to Temp Create or I guess the Prepare Crate, that way if you come across a song you want to play later you can easily find it. (or maybe SHIFT + TAB Circle combination on the hardwarecontroller)


I figured out you could do this using CTRL + P, however it would be nice to do it from hardware I think SHIFT + TAB (on the controller)

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6. Being able to output a crate contents or your review crate to M3U file or just a simple text file, so that you can easily save a playlist. (An automatic feature like Virtual Dj would be really good, it essentially automatically crates a new playlist file everytime you start the software). There have been many times when I refer to a set I played using VDJ a year ago!


I guess you can do this from Scratchtools.....but still should be built right into ITCH!

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9. One feature I really like in VDJ that would be nice here is even if you are in a crate and you are doing a search, there should be a line below the results, and below this line it should show you all the other results from the rest of your library (very useful when you have a big library and you forget about songs especially other remixs that you may have forgoten about)


I guess hitting CTRL + F you kind of do this but I still prefer the way VDJ does it, becuase which ever Crate or playlist you are in is still in focus becuase once I find the song I want I would prefer to return back to whichever crate I was in

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11. Some functionality to show you all the songs that are in your library but the file is missing, so you can fix them all at the same time, instead of waiting for when you are at a gig and you realize your file is missing then you have to do a search manually.


You can do this by just sorting by the first column in the library, I could of sworn I tried that before and it didn't work! Anyway it works now!
At 5:56 AM 16 November 2008
Dj Beware wrote
Glad you read the manual... that's why I didn't reply. Haha
At 6:31 AM 17 November 2008
DeezNotes wrote


having to click on time elapsed to change to time remaining everytime I start itch is annoying.
we need the software to remember the last setting (
At 1:30 PM 17 November 2008
lofty wrote
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having to click on time elapsed to change to time remaining everytime I start itch is annoying.
we need the software to remember the last setting

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At 5:29 PM 17 November 2008
DeezNotes wrote
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having to click on time elapsed to change to time remaining everytime I start itch is annoying.
we need the software to remember the last setting

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At 8:49 PM 17 November 2008
Dj Beware wrote
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At 12:37 PM 18 November 2008
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At 8:12 PM 20 November 2008
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At 1:09 AM 22 November 2008
Kmxorbit wrote
The last setting of the loop lenght, should be remebered also imho...
At 4:40 PM 22 November 2008
Kmxorbit wrote
loop roll.
At 5:18 PM 22 November 2008
iiexist wrote
ok i'll throw in some more suggestions..

1.loop roll
2. i can't switch from scratch mode to tempo mode without taking my hand/fingers off the platter.. i guess i am used to vinyl but this would be nice not to remove my hand from the platter in order to switch modes.
3. upgrade the EQs
4. using loops that were set in SSL (with auto loop?) without having to reset them with itch or your vci.

thats all i can think of. this product is on point. scratching is something to get used to. i look forward to future updates/upgrades.
At 5:29 PM 22 November 2008
iiexist wrote
I was messing with the censor button yesterday and then came up with another idea to implement, and hopefully it will bring some fun to that lonely censor button.... and so it be pressed more often which it hopes for.
Most songs (RNB and hiphop) have their words censored out with a turntable quick slowdown ( like T-Pain's songs) or sounds like said "Ewwhoopp(going down)" at the curse word(from a clean track). It would be fun,quick-n-easy thing to have the censor button do, maybe have the function to have 2 or 3 different (from the original) censor modes, and options on the setup page,

1)quick reverse(original)
2)quick word slowdown (as presented above)
3)quick gapping/randoming (chopping up the word and make a gibberish one?)
4)launch a "censor clip" effect (you can have the option to load 4 single short clip effects, and every time you press it, it's a different or random one)
example of this would be missy elliots random animal and enviromental sounds in clean versions of her songs. (horn, elephant roar, glass break, fart, girl ahh! etc.)

thus the button will stick to 1/2 beat or 1 beat bpm clock that is on the song.
At 10:28 PM 22 November 2008
Hi

is it possible to improve the CUT of the crossfader.
there is 1 or 2 mm before the sound comes (in CUT position) and its not good for the crabe in scratch.

thanks
At 2:01 PM 24 November 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
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Hi

is it possible to improve the CUT of the crossfader.
there is 1 or 2 mm before the sound comes (in CUT position) and its not good for the crabe in scratch.

thanks

That's a hardware limitation. The only options are 1) live with it or 2) modify it.

I also agree the cut-in is just a tad too much.
At 8:03 PM 24 November 2008
DeezNotes wrote
this may seem random, but i would like to see something on the lines of (at least) an add-on that would generate a random playlist. or choose a random song to be the next track.

maybe settings for range of bpm or random bpm.
At 1:17 AM 1 December 2008
iiexist wrote
- For me the best update suggestion is to add a shortcut for the MIC (on/off) on the PC Keybord or on the VCI..!

- idem for the crossfader
At 12:42 PM 1 December 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE......SERATO Team.....!

I should be so happy if you make a shortcut to the MIC on/off on the keybord of the PC or on the VCI-300...PLEASE...PLEASE....PLEASE...!

(excuse for my english...I'm a french DJ)

lot of Thanks if you do that..!

Bye

DJ 2ni from France
At 6:14 AM 12 December 2008
DJ 2ni wrote
BPM in the main browse window as an item just like the name of the track. Ordering my tracks by bpm helps a lot as i am going on more than 400+ tracks and looking at just one bpm speed is just limiting. I want to order everything so I can look at everything and grab something I like 2 or maybe 3 bpm higher without having to hit tab and down 3 times after which I have to hit tab 2 times again....

FX!!! Even basic ones, I want FX. :D I have no issue with pushing shift and twisting my gain to do it. No issues what so ever. Or pressing shift gives you the effect section instead of the EQ's.

Oh and the EQ might be upgraded...they sound a little bland when compared to other programs....
At 11:17 AM 12 December 2008
mrddyn wrote
I think the "Shift idea" is cool, but many like to make fx with the eq's, so to take away the eq's and switch to effects limits things, but hey I be happy for anything, but think best would be an additional page like there is for "AUX" and then there would be 4-5 types of fx, one could hook up with their own additional controller, like a Korg Nano Control.The idea of Shift and Low Eq to swap it into a Filter would be sweet.
At 3:36 PM 12 December 2008
seratosnatch wrote
Hi. As i realized all we have it`s autoloop function or manual loop ( 4 loop banks) why It`s not possible just to set autoloop at first and then send him to bank .

understand what i mean ?
At 11:30 AM 13 December 2008
Kunststoff wrote
Kunststoff, this is available in the 1.04 beta. A disk icon was added next to the autoloop size for saving. It has been suggested that the shift + autoloop shortcut be added for it.
At 12:19 AM 14 December 2008
The Reverand wrote
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Kunststoff, this is available in the 1.04 beta. A disk icon was added next to the autoloop size for saving. It has been suggested that the shift + autoloop shortcut be added for it.


Is there also a Monitor spilt PFL ( in a headphones) in 1.04 ?
At 3:19 PM 14 December 2008
Kunststoff wrote
No Split PFL, although you can finally monitor both tracks at once
At 1:52 AM 15 December 2008
The Reverand wrote

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