Does anyone know of a conventional-sized 10"/12" battle mixer (needs to fit in my case) that has 4 separate line or phono inputs? I have a 3-channel now which has 3 inputs of each but I want to upgrade to 4 (in order to use both thru inputs), but 4-channel ones tend to increase in overall mixer size (i.e. Pioneer DJM-800, etc.) Besides maybe the Rane TTM, are there any others worth the $?

the 57, although it is technically a 2 channel mixer, allows you to switch to thru inputs on the fly...and also opens up a whole slew of new opportunities for creativity in your sets.

if you're looking for something cheap, Numark DXM PRO is nice (ya, i said it)

DJ Silence on the boards uses one too. No really, its a nice mixer. Seriously.

It has 4 line inputs? I looked at one website and it said 3 (switchable)... maybe it was a typo. Any others you guys can recommend?

Nah its just a 2 channel mixer like the 57, but each channel is switchable,

Get a TTM-56, its got 2 lines & 2 phono's so you can switch it up. Also, the faders are butter! Solid, solid mixer, I've been using mine for 6 years, never any problems.

If you can deal with a slightly larger mixer, the Vestax PMC-37Pro might do the trick. It's 12" x 16", but if your case is battle-style, it might fit.

I've had one for four or five years, and it's been good to me. Confused the hell out of some of my DJ friends though.

www.vestax.com

Ok thanks for all the suggestions guys. I'll look into these mixers for sure.

Sorry to bring an old thread of mine back from the dead, but from what I understand, the TTM-57SL comes packaged with Scratchlive, which makes it a little pricey. Is there any way to just buy the TTM-57SL WITHOUT Scratchlive for someone like me who already owns the program (so basically just minus the SL haha) in order to save some $$? Or would I just have to suffice with the TTM-56?

sell your sl 1 on eBay. Or buy a 56.

buy a 56, but you lose all the cool features of the 57 with ssl

look into a pioneer 600 or 800..

A TTM-56 is basically a TTM57 minus the SSL...sooooo what exactly are you asking for?

Yea, I'm confused.

56 = Mixer w/o SSL
57 = Mixer w/ SSL + extra features

It's very simple.

Allen & Heath - Xone: 02, really dope mixer, only second to the 56/57

you get 4 inputs at once.. instead of input switches there is 2 knobs for each channel.. its like a hidden 4 channel mixer

serato friendly --> ssl.linuxbeach.net

USB 3.0 & FW blootooth ready

Haha...Dope!!! That was my first mixer.

I realize this. The 57 seems really nice, and getting the 56 would be sweet too but it would leave me itching for the features and integration with SSL of the 57. But, since I already own SSL, the 57 would be pointless to buy. Right now I have a Stanton SMX-501 3-channel hybrid mixer with 3 phono and 3 line inputs, so basically I can only hook up one thru input. That's why I'm on a quest for a good mixer with all of the inputs I need since I own 2 turntables and 2 cd players. I dunno, I just like having a decent amount of channels and nice features, and a good fader of course. I just need to make sure that size-wise it fits into my mixer road case.

Spwnd the loot and get the 800!!! Unless you think you're DMC worthy, the 800 will do justice. That, and I personally believe it blows every other mixed out of the water. And yes, I'm a hip hop dj

The Pioneer one?

you can hook up 2 tt's and 2 cd simultaneously on the 57...you know that, right?

Rane 57 = IDEAL
Rane 56 = Works just as well, 2 channels
Vestax 07 Pro = Works liek a 56, best if your not in the Rane price tag

Yes I know that. Ideally, 4 line inputs would be nice so I can have both of my Denon 5000s hooked up and still have two open channels for the thru inputs just in case I need to use regular CDs. Right now, with my 3-channel mixer, I only have an input for 1 thru input. Plus, the Denons have "alpha track", which allows me to basically play two songs off of 1 CD at the same time, which requires 2 line inputs per deck (so 4 total). That's why I need at least 4 channels in one, compact mixer.

And ditto to the fact that Vestax has some good stuff.

That vestax is annoying the upfader curves suck.

4 channel 12" mixer that is half of the price of pioneer djm800 is the denon x1500 i like the effects on it and it is made pretty well.

I love my 57 though... rarely touching my laptop kicks ass

I love my 800 imo its the best mixer out there at present:)

I was tempted with the 57 but 2 channels just is not enough for me:(

Yeah, it's too bad they didn't include upfader curve controls so you could change that...oh wait, they did.

I thought about that for a while... i think i may add a sampler, but it still rocks

lol if you werent busy being sarcastic you woulda realized I said the curveS which means I recognize it has different curve options. Back when I made that post I had just found out about it so I was kinda mad. It's just the design of the mixer tho. The smoothest upfader curve is not linear. I just prefer the smoothest curve to be linear like on the 06 and rane 56.

Is there any way to get the 57 with Serato NOT packaged with it for those that already own Serato, just so I can get this sick mixer and save some loot? lol

a ttm 56 is the rane version of the mixer w/o ssl built in... however the layout is a little different btwn the 56 and 57. i personnally strongly recommend the 57

Either way, you can't lose.

You're not paying for the sowftware you're paying for the hardware...Serato offers the software free via Downloads I do like my 57 though Best mixer I ever owned and I still don't use it to it's full capability

I will sell you my 57 without the software real cheap...

It would be cool to get the 57 without Serato for the cue point buttons and shit. Thats probably why he was asking about it.

Oh ok, good to know.



How cheap is "cheap", and how much use/abuse has the mixer seen already? I'm always wary when buying used.

2 channel- TTM 57sl, TTm 56, pioneer djm 400 or 909, vestax


4 channel- DJM 800, or denon x 1500s

Sorry man... was just kiddin around cause the software is free... good luck with whatever mixer you go with...

StriktlyBzniz You just gotta do what all of us did...save up Don't buy it used and don't buy it off ebay, It's the holidays so you can find a sale some place. That equipment is too expensive to buy it used or from some shady spot and then it breaks and is not covered by the warranty. Trust me, it's a precision piece of equipment. Buy video games used but get your 57 New

Aw damn. But, I'm assuming that if the software is free via download, that when you buy a 57 it still comes with the necessary hardware (i.e. scratch amp, cables, etc.) for Scratch Live to run, or is this incorrect?

Yes, but we don't call it a Scratch Amp! eew

You can do what I did and that's sell your ssl box on ebay, where you will get around $425 - $450!!! But do this after you buy a TTM-57. I paid $1150 for mine. In the end, your only going to be paying around $700 for the ttm-57, which is a sweet deal. But if you want an even sweeter deal, you can just sell me your soul. I'll even thrown in a some new wires for you, what do you say?

yah but then wen u get to a club that doesnt let u hook up the mixer or that dont have room it will suck not to hav ur sl1

Oops, sorry. Audio Interface?

Satan:

Good point, and haha.

djchrischip:

I already have a SL1.

StriktlyBzniz,

What exactly do you still not understand? If you have an SL1 already, then buy a ttm-56.

If you want a ttm-57, then buy one.

When you buy a 57SL you get a mixer, two CVs and two control CDs, a power cord, and a usb cord with an installation disk. That's it. The 57 is an integrated unit, there is no other hardware.

If you want the functionality of a 57SL but don't want to buy a 57SL, then buy a midi controller.

Have a nice day.

::Stop tracking this discussion::

^ Relax.

But, despite your frustration, your post made the most sense. I didn't know that the 57 had the whole audio box built into it, which partly explains it's high price. Thanks for that info. This thread was more about recommending mixers in general though, not just Rane ones.

Rane or Pioneer. Take your pick. Other than that, good luck.

Which one has the best fader for cutting? I'm especially worried about a nice sharp cut and very few fader replacements.

909 and 56-57 both have awesome faders. You just gotta try both of them out and see which one you like better. I believe Rane faders are magnetic and the crossfader on the 909 is optical. Both should last a long time.

If I could find a 56 for around 5 or 600, new or factory refurbished, then I would definitely go with that.

You should be able to find that.

Cool, I'm tired of my Denon.

^ guh - I hate denon mixers. A lot of clubs in my town were buying the Denon X1500s back when it first came out a couple years ago cause it looked similar the industry standard 600 or xone92 but were way cheaper. Those things are not build for the rigours of nightclub use. You think the 57 sucks with the cue buttons misfiring, imagine that happening to your headphone cue buttons when trying to mix :-\.

The radio station I do a show at has an X100 and I just find some of the design decisions kind of stupid - like putting the headphone cue as a rotary knob with like 4 options instead of just giving a standard fader knob/fader or toggle switch.

if you can find a 707 those have 2 sets of line inputs too (one can be switched as either a phono or a line). Still only a 2 channel mixer (3 including the aux input) tho.

Does anyone own a Rane Empath mixer?

Also, the comments made me think of another question. If you have a 2-channel mixer that allows you to switch it's phono lines to strictly line inputs, can you hook up more than 2 cd players, and how would you control them all at once with just two available channels?

The Empath is a great mixer - but the lines only give you a phono or line option so you wouldn't be able to use a 2nd set of CDJs.

To answer your question about how you would control all 4 decks at once on a 2-channel mixer: you can't. You can only play 2 at a time.

If you need to play 4 decks at once get an 800 or an Ecler Nuo 5 or something

^ OK, thanks for that info.