Serato Video General Discussion
New articles and frequently asked questions
Talk about Serato Video and Video-SL.
New articles and frequently asked questions
Matt G
3:26 AM - 15 December, 2007
Welcome to the new Video-SL discussion area of the forum :)
By now I presume you've seen the release notes for the public preview. If not, you can read them here: www.scratchlive.net
We've also put up some initial articles and FAQs covering what we think will be the most common questions and topics to learn.
Video-SL articles: www.scratchlive.net
All articles: www.scratchlive.net
Frequently asked questions: www.scratchlive.net
By now I presume you've seen the release notes for the public preview. If not, you can read them here: www.scratchlive.net
We've also put up some initial articles and FAQs covering what we think will be the most common questions and topics to learn.
Video-SL articles: www.scratchlive.net
All articles: www.scratchlive.net
Frequently asked questions: www.scratchlive.net
Deejay Z
7:48 AM - 15 December, 2007
Hey....Lookin for the Video-SL Handbrake Preset....There is no link to DL
Thanks
Thanks
KMXE
8:56 AM - 15 December, 2007
Thanks
yup - this would definitely be helpful!
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Hey....Lookin for the Video-SL Handbrake Preset....There is no link to DLThanks
yup - this would definitely be helpful!
Dj supernatural
6:23 PM - 15 December, 2007
looking for the download for the macUserPresets.plist file???????????
Pleasehelp
Pleasehelp
Deejay Z
6:50 PM - 15 December, 2007
ya, I'm waiting on starting to import DVDs till I can get that preset....
DJDFECT
7:18 PM - 15 December, 2007
I've got PO monthly since 2003... I've been waiting for this day since day one. so close yet so far away
Dj Ace
9:37 PM - 15 December, 2007
When using hand brake for the MAC what directory do i drag the Presets.plist to?
m0nster
9:38 PM - 15 December, 2007
i'm playing with different settings, it appears when i try and recreate the preset(from mentioned article on pc) i'm having problems. I can get mpeg4 to work with aac at 160, but when i do h264 i get a black screen with audio, i guess i'm doing something wrong, also it says mp4, when my files are named m4v
dj disturbed
9:42 PM - 15 December, 2007
mp4 is the container, m4v is a video file using the mp4 container and m4a (AAC) is an audio file using the mp4 container (and m4p is the DRMed iTunes files using the same thing)
KMXE
10:10 PM - 15 December, 2007
since the preset for the PC Handbrake have not yet been released, anyone care to share what settings they are using that works? Ive tried a couple of different settings but my videos are very choppy when i try and play through VSL
ive converted files to mp4 (for the iPod) and these work better
ive converted files to mp4 (for the iPod) and these work better
JonathanC
10:14 PM - 15 December, 2007
Hi,
I will try and get that preset online for you today. Sorry about the confusion.
I will try and get that preset online for you today. Sorry about the confusion.
DJDFECT
12:37 AM - 16 December, 2007
Do they have weekends in New Zealand?
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Ugh, these mods need to work on weekends hahahDo they have weekends in New Zealand?
JonathanC
12:26 AM - 17 December, 2007
Go to www.scratchlive.net and read the article for converting a DVD using Handbrake for either Mac or PC. The preset is linked inside the article.
dj-jv
12:29 AM - 17 December, 2007
jonathan what about if I have a .avi file do i need to convert to a different format to play?
JonathanC
12:30 AM - 17 December, 2007
That depends on which Codec is being used. Please have a read of the articles about containers and Codecs and also what VIDEO-SL supports. Depending on your file you may have to convert it to another format which VIDEO-SL reads.
SCOOTERHOT92
7:21 AM - 18 December, 2007
Jonathan hey would it be possible for you to post a preset file for rendering out mp4 files for Sony Vegas? or can you just repost what i should have the following settingset at? these are the default settings for mp4 when rendering out from sony vegas......
Audio: 128 Kbps, 48,000 Hz, AAC.
Video: 512 Kbps, 29.970 fps, 320x240
Audio: 128 Kbps, 48,000 Hz, AAC.
Video: 512 Kbps, 29.970 fps, 320x240
DJ Grandpa
9:48 AM - 18 December, 2007
In Sony Vegas 8 I use (Custom settings):
NTSC videos:
Quality: best
size: 720x480
Profile: Main
Framerate: 29,97
Fileorder: None
Pixasp: 1
Variablebitrate: max 4000000 avr: 2000000
Audio, hz: 48000, bitrate 224000
PAL videos:
Quality: best
size: 720x576
Profile: Main
Framerate: 25
Fileorder: None
Pixasp: 1
Variablebitrate: max 4000000 avr: 2000000
Audio, hz: 48000, bitrate 224000
It takes a while to render (longer than to MPEG2/DVD) but result looks realy good in SSL. A 04:40 long video is in .mp4 75Mb in size.
NTSC videos:
Quality: best
size: 720x480
Profile: Main
Framerate: 29,97
Fileorder: None
Pixasp: 1
Variablebitrate: max 4000000 avr: 2000000
Audio, hz: 48000, bitrate 224000
PAL videos:
Quality: best
size: 720x576
Profile: Main
Framerate: 25
Fileorder: None
Pixasp: 1
Variablebitrate: max 4000000 avr: 2000000
Audio, hz: 48000, bitrate 224000
It takes a while to render (longer than to MPEG2/DVD) but result looks realy good in SSL. A 04:40 long video is in .mp4 75Mb in size.
DJ Julius
5:35 PM - 18 December, 2007
Who has used handbrake here. Why is that when I add Video-SL and I import a DVD file to my hard drive when I open it its all on one track it never gives me a track number for other chapters. I do have the Chapter marker market to.
DJ Julius
7:20 PM - 18 December, 2007
So one chapter at a time. No other way around it and thanks for the reply Deejay Z
m0nster
7:26 PM - 18 December, 2007
you can do chap1-chap11, not sure if it names each one seperate or leaves them erged, but if not, you will have to do each one seperate :(
Deejay Z
7:39 PM - 18 December, 2007
ya it doesnt seperate them....You would have to seperate them in iMovie or something, which then you would have to export and rename....As much as its a pain, Hand brake 1 by 1 is the easiest....you can start importing after you name the first chapter and add the rest chapter by chapter
DJ Julius
11:09 PM - 18 December, 2007
Do you guys get like a video distortion when you use the video-sl on handbrake every time the frame changes to fast for like a milli sec.
Deejay Z
11:35 PM - 18 December, 2007
Ya Its like MAD Lines through the whole video....when the picture moves...I think its a keyframe problem...but im in no means a video expert
Nathan H
12:46 AM - 19 December, 2007
You may be experiencing an issue known as 'tearing' which is when the output is updated halfway through drawing the frame to screen (i.e. the top half is of one scene and the bottom half is of another).
We are writing an article at the moment that deals with this and will hopefully help explain both what it is and how to avoid it.
N
We are writing an article at the moment that deals with this and will hopefully help explain both what it is and how to avoid it.
N
DJ Julius
2:25 AM - 19 December, 2007
So should we stop importing our music videos until this is fixed, cause every dvd takes about 4 hours to import and if we have to do it all over again that would not be cool.
Nathan H
2:34 AM - 19 December, 2007
I am assuming this is an issue with playback (i.e. when you play the videos in Video-SL) and this doesn't effect the encoding process. If the issue still happens when you use another player (Quicktime/Media Player) then it isn't what I thought...
Deejay Z
5:01 AM - 19 December, 2007
I havent even loaded them into SL yet...I just ripped some files from my Promo Only DVDs and Checked them
Deejay Z
5:03 AM - 19 December, 2007
In Quicktime....plus the "best of 70's" disk looks really dark, im assuming its because the Videos are pretty shitty anyways
DJ Julius
5:40 AM - 19 December, 2007
I have the problem when I play it in quicktime and serato as far as the image distortion goes so I don't know if is because of the importing part or what?
Nathan H
6:38 AM - 19 December, 2007
Unfortunately that sounds like something in the encoding stage...
DJ Julius
8:13 AM - 19 December, 2007
Nathan when you import you files does the same thing happen to you and do you also use hadbrake with the same setting as far as the video_sl and guys thanks for all your help. If anyone knows a better software for importing please let us know.
D-Twizzle
4:58 PM - 19 December, 2007
maybe it's because you're watching an interlaced video on an progressive screen monitor. this will show horizontal lines across the video. i always convert my videos to progressive to fix this issue. i'm not sure if that's what your problem is tho.
Deejay Z
5:02 PM - 19 December, 2007
Thanks Twizzle Ill try that...If i Convert it to progressive it will show up fine on an interlaced screen correct?
Nathan H
10:04 PM - 19 December, 2007
Hmm.. interlaced content, hadn't thought about that as what might be going on. Good spotting D-Twizzle.
This is indeed an issue but goes further than progressive monitors. Quicktime is known for being very poor at deinterlacing content to combine the fields into one frame and (as we use Quicktime for some stuff) we will be affected by that as well.
I just looked at the Handbrake preset and it isn't set to deinterlace the content itself so I'll see if I can get that updated.
This is indeed an issue but goes further than progressive monitors. Quicktime is known for being very poor at deinterlacing content to combine the fields into one frame and (as we use Quicktime for some stuff) we will be affected by that as well.
I just looked at the Handbrake preset and it isn't set to deinterlace the content itself so I'll see if I can get that updated.
Deejay Z
10:08 PM - 19 December, 2007
For Deinterlacing in Handbrake What Should I click.....Fast to Slowest....anything else I should change??? Also what is Anamorphic? And why is it checked under picture settings?
Deejay Z
10:11 PM - 19 December, 2007
Also...Why is the default output 624x464...shouldnt it be 720x480 or 640x480 or keep it as the source which is 720x480 for Promo Only DVDs
Matt G
10:31 PM - 19 December, 2007
The output dimensions will probably be different because Handbrake is set to automatically crop out the dead areas of the video (ie the black bars top and bottom, and little strips of black cruft on the left and right). With that stuff cropped out you only have the real picture information being stored in the file, which saves space and gives better output quality.
In the "Picture Settings" window you can see a white border showing the region it's auto cropped to.
In the "Picture Settings" window you can see a white border showing the region it's auto cropped to.
Deejay Z
10:36 PM - 19 December, 2007
Got It....So as far as Deinterlaceing what is better in Handbrake, There is Fast, Slow, Slower, Slowest....Also in Handbrake What are the keyframes set at Using the Video-SL Preset
DJDFECT
11:44 PM - 19 December, 2007
Looks like video jockeying just became computer-setting-jockeying
Dj_KaGeN
11:57 PM - 19 December, 2007
the hurdle to video is met with many long hours trying to figure out how to rip/label/sort a single song from a DVD effectively and get it to play via some software/hardware combination... Editing those videos, will make you want to drink rat poison.
Nathan H
2:43 AM - 20 December, 2007
The difference between fast and slow is quite significant so we are going to change the preset to the Deinterlace:slow option.
The keyframes should be between 10 and 50 and we let the encoder work out what the most efficient spacing is.
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Got It....So as far as Deinterlaceing what is better in Handbrake, There is Fast, Slow, Slower, Slowest....Also in Handbrake What are the keyframes set at Using the Video-SL PresetThe difference between fast and slow is quite significant so we are going to change the preset to the Deinterlace:slow option.
The keyframes should be between 10 and 50 and we let the encoder work out what the most efficient spacing is.
KMXE
3:17 AM - 20 December, 2007
hahaha!!!!
you're right though - it's a steep learning curve with so many variables then also you gotta worry about the time it actually takes to do all this. Wouldn't it be nice if Serato included a seperate program which was "designed" by users that allowed you to
a) rip DVD files with a nice GUI
b) labelled the files
c) convert bulk files to desired format
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the hurdle to video is met with many long hours trying to figure out how to rip/label/sort a single song from a DVD effectively and get it to play via some software/hardware combination... Editing those videos, will make you want to drink rat poison.hahaha!!!!
you're right though - it's a steep learning curve with so many variables then also you gotta worry about the time it actually takes to do all this. Wouldn't it be nice if Serato included a seperate program which was "designed" by users that allowed you to
a) rip DVD files with a nice GUI
b) labelled the files
c) convert bulk files to desired format
JonathanC
4:18 AM - 20 December, 2007
PC preset has been updated however Handbrake doesn't seem to save the setting with the Mac version.
Mac users use the existing Handbrake preset and go to "Picture Settings" and set Deinterlace to "Slow".
Mac users use the existing Handbrake preset and go to "Picture Settings" and set Deinterlace to "Slow".
JonathanC
2:04 AM - 21 December, 2007
A new article has gone online regarding VSYNC. Please check it out at www.scratchlive.net
Death Ro
3:47 PM - 24 December, 2007
Can you honestly answer me... Are we gonna see Video-SL for those of us without the SL57???
DjBlaze
12:26 AM - 25 December, 2007
Seriously, this is the question of the day. I'd like to use the Pioneer 800's midid out to control the video functions of serato video....
It can't be that hard unless they just want to sell mixers. IF the 57 was a 3 channel mixer I'd consider purchasing it.
Anyone have an answer?
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Can you honestly answer me... Are we gonna see Video-SL for those of us without the SL57???Seriously, this is the question of the day. I'd like to use the Pioneer 800's midid out to control the video functions of serato video....
It can't be that hard unless they just want to sell mixers. IF the 57 was a 3 channel mixer I'd consider purchasing it.
Anyone have an answer?
Deejay Z
12:51 AM - 25 December, 2007
ive heard rumors that they may make the epatath mixer with serato....
DJDFECT
6:08 AM - 25 December, 2007
I heard a rumor about an MP44 with all knobs...
Rumors are Rumors
Rumors are Rumors
waffelz
12:09 AM - 30 December, 2007
Seriously, this is the question of the day. I'd like to use the Pioneer 800's midid out to control the video functions of serato video....
It can't be that hard unless they just want to sell mixers. IF the 57 was a 3 channel mixer I'd consider purchasing it.
Anyone have an answer?
dude I'd be all over the pioneer's sv100 for this myself...but i want more ability's with video then i see this offereing me however since I'm a father i can't blow a few g on a mixer and then about a g for a comp and serrato so this is my best option i see avialable but still can't finda single thing about the video effects procsessing and or if video in's are capabale so i don't even know if this is actually worth it for the aplications i use when vj'ing and well thats the only reason i'm thinking of buiying this mixer and serrato...so right now I'm thinking i might just be blowing 2g ona mixer program and laptop that most likely(as sick as it is) isn't really what i need and i can't find the answers i nee diether this is sorta frusterating...i don't want to buy gear to fidn out if it does what i want....AHHHHhhhhhh
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Can you honestly answer me... Are we gonna see Video-SL for those of us without the SL57???Seriously, this is the question of the day. I'd like to use the Pioneer 800's midid out to control the video functions of serato video....
It can't be that hard unless they just want to sell mixers. IF the 57 was a 3 channel mixer I'd consider purchasing it.
Anyone have an answer?
dude I'd be all over the pioneer's sv100 for this myself...but i want more ability's with video then i see this offereing me however since I'm a father i can't blow a few g on a mixer and then about a g for a comp and serrato so this is my best option i see avialable but still can't finda single thing about the video effects procsessing and or if video in's are capabale so i don't even know if this is actually worth it for the aplications i use when vj'ing and well thats the only reason i'm thinking of buiying this mixer and serrato...so right now I'm thinking i might just be blowing 2g ona mixer program and laptop that most likely(as sick as it is) isn't really what i need and i can't find the answers i nee diether this is sorta frusterating...i don't want to buy gear to fidn out if it does what i want....AHHHHhhhhhh
Dj Ace
7:33 PM - 31 December, 2007
I think you are asing if the pioneer DJM 800 midi features can control the video effects processing? The answer to that is NO. You have to use the Rane TTM 57SL built in controls for video effects and use the cross fader for transitions. The video plugin is only available for use with the TTM 57SL. But you can use the DJM midi functions to assign various controls in the regular SSL 1.8. Like cue points auto looping etc. which applies to video also. In the future rane/serato has stated that they may add support for the SL1 also.
waffelz
2:05 PM - 3 January, 2008
oops i coulda answreed that real easy like if i hadn'ty a been so damn sleep deprived adn distracted by other things...lol
sorry man
sorry man
Alixx J
7:16 PM - 3 January, 2008
ok so im trying to convert my first vob using handbrake with the SSL preset and it's giving me an estimated time of 15hours for the one track!! what time should i expect to see for converting one vob track?
dj disturbed
10:47 PM - 3 January, 2008
Depends of how LONG that track is..... a full length movie will take alot longer then a 3-5 min music video
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ok so im trying to convert my first vob using handbrake with the SSL preset and it's giving me an estimated time of 15hours for the one track!! what time should i expect to see for converting one vob track?Depends of how LONG that track is..... a full length movie will take alot longer then a 3-5 min music video
dj disturbed
10:48 PM - 3 January, 2008
also depends of how fast your computer is and how much ram you have
T-SWIFT
5:31 AM - 4 January, 2008
so, i guess for those of us that can't afford a 57 we're just out. i hope serato will come out with a version that does not need a specifc mixer to do video. when i bought sl i didn't even know about the 57. i had the $$ then but not even close now.
Alixx J
1:11 PM - 4 January, 2008
(it was Wham tropicana haha - you gotta start somewhere in your colection!) It completed it and took about 5 hours, my computer's estimated time must have been a bit out. Saying that, it lost the audio and only plays the video now, so not sure what to do next, my computer has 1gig of ram and a 4 year old athlon processor and isn't too bad.
waffelz
2:04 PM - 4 January, 2008
yeah it usually gives you the worst [possible time it'll take...i remember having to fight with my old boss so much cuz i wanted to buy a dvdrecorder(much teh same as a player but it records about 4.5 hours onto a dvd realtime and direct...) and he kept telling me to just make footage in the comp with out any understanding of rendering...i even showed him the three minute clip i made and let him see some of how long it took to render...still didn't get it so i just bout the damn thing with my own cash...best hundred fifty i ever spent for visuals supplys...now he's trying to borow the damn thing off me but the qway that he is he'll say it was his and he doesn't know what I'm talkign about(cats got mental problems thats for sure!!!!)
anyways long and short of it renderign sucks!!! as to the no audio thing it coulda been a simple settign mistake in the proscess of convertign it?
anyways long and short of it renderign sucks!!! as to the no audio thing it coulda been a simple settign mistake in the proscess of convertign it?
SkyJ
8:08 PM - 9 January, 2008
How Do peeps i'm about to start using video in my dj set soon and i have now downloaded the 1.8 version but it's not the full version as i have to get a code to use it but how much will this cost in the UK,And also why have we got to use the TTM57SL Mixer why can't we use other mixers i.e such as the pioneer dvj1000 etc... as i don't really fancy carrying a mixer around with me to every club i go too.
Why not adapt the SL1 interface unit so that you can plug from your vga output on the laptop to a Video input/output then to a Edirol V4 Mixer or a video input on a matrix that most clubs have that use video now,This might sound silly but just an idea.:)
Why not adapt the SL1 interface unit so that you can plug from your vga output on the laptop to a Video input/output then to a Edirol V4 Mixer or a video input on a matrix that most clubs have that use video now,This might sound silly but just an idea.:)
waffelz
6:02 AM - 11 January, 2008
it's built for the capabilty's of the program..it has the controls and faders built in...your only other option is either gettign a video mixer and an audio mixer having both set up beside each other and using the dvj's(bout 3.5 grande each) or you can get those decks plus the ppioneer svm1000 mixer(bout 6 grande or $6000 canadian price so uk is i dunno) i'm now in serious debate on weather or not this even is worth my money to get(scratche live) as for what i want to do I'm still going to have to go buy the roland edirol vj-04 to send my video to so i can add what i normally do i just want to manipulate video sctratch it etc...)
waffelz
6:02 AM - 11 January, 2008
oh yeah i shoulda finished reading..it's call3ed marketing
sell more of our product...thats my opinoin but it seems to be hitting the nail on the head with that hammer
sell more of our product...thats my opinoin but it seems to be hitting the nail on the head with that hammer
Dj frost
6:09 PM - 11 January, 2008
Ok Serato Mods.. I am going to purchase the $1700 - 57 and the 200 software...no problem great work on everything you are geniuses!
BUT...... The watermark is a kick in the face, I was thinking it would be a normal watermark in the corner or something, but you cant even see the video!!!!!
[example]
Watchwww.youtube.com
I am a huge supporter of you guys from the start. I have no problem paying for the mixer and upgrading from SL1 but come on.. that watermark is totally ridiculous, what benefit does it have for your company other than pissing loyal customers off?
peace,
frost
BUT...... The watermark is a kick in the face, I was thinking it would be a normal watermark in the corner or something, but you cant even see the video!!!!!
[example]
Watchwww.youtube.com
I am a huge supporter of you guys from the start. I have no problem paying for the mixer and upgrading from SL1 but come on.. that watermark is totally ridiculous, what benefit does it have for your company other than pissing loyal customers off?
peace,
frost
D-Twizzle
6:14 PM - 11 January, 2008
the watermark will be gone when you buy the plugin so i don't really see a problem with it.
Dj frost
9:33 PM - 11 January, 2008
oops, I just saw this page..
scratchlive.net
all good, the forum post seemed unofficial.. that page looks good[:
scratchlive.net
all good, the forum post seemed unofficial.. that page looks good[:
Matt G
9:52 PM - 13 January, 2008
Yes, the watermark is part of the demo mode :) Once you have purchased Video-SL and entered your serial number the watermark will disappear and you will be able to full screen the output window.
Deejay Z
10:34 PM - 13 January, 2008
Any word on if there will be any changes stability wise to the final version, or if it doesnt work quite right as is (choppy video playback) then I should assume the same in the final version and not purchase it?
Matt G
11:23 PM - 13 January, 2008
Similar to how things happen with Scratch LIVE, there will be updates to VIDEO-SL over time. Bugs will be fixed and performance improved where possible. As to choppy video playback, if it's something that's under our control then we will be doing everything we can to fix it. But if it's something that's to do with your computer hardware (ie not fast enough CPU or GPU) or software (ie GPU drivers) then there's little we can do other than help you through steps to updating your computer.
Deejay Z
1:05 AM - 14 January, 2008
got it, understandable.....either way ill be waiting in line to get it on launch.....already have the countdown as a widget! Will the preview be updated along with the new versions?
Matt G
2:07 AM - 14 January, 2008
The demo version is really the full version. Once you enter a serial number it "activates". So yes, as the full version is updated so too will the demo version :)
waffelz
5:35 AM - 14 January, 2008
what about updates involving transitions and effects?
I'm not too impressed with the range of them for the video sl....and are they going to be free or are they going to be additional plug ins to be bought if you do update the software?
I'm not too impressed with the range of them for the video sl....and are they going to be free or are they going to be additional plug ins to be bought if you do update the software?
waffelz
5:39 AM - 14 January, 2008
also is the latency rate as low on the video sl as it is for serrato itself?
Dj_KaGeN
4:26 AM - 15 January, 2008
is the ONLY lock on the demo the watermark and the shunted ability to output to another screen??
DJ Julius
2:56 AM - 16 January, 2008
anyone here uses promo only. when I convert some tacks even when it shows that it is only on one track only half the video coverts so I have to use 2 tracks from the dvd then at that point I get all the video for that track converted plus the 2nd track. Anyone has this problem?
itchie
1:17 AM - 3 February, 2008
i've been using imtoo ripper for promonly on a pc. it's the only thing that i've found for a pc for promoonly as mov however, it seperates ALL the tracks. so videos with 2chapters rip seperate. most intros you don't need, and IF you do put em back together in sony Vegas. use settings for mov and boost both audio and video bitrates looks great runs smooth a little big though 60-90mb.
stevie o
1:45 AM - 12 February, 2008
all this reading about video is Greek to me. Its making me want to never do video. I was so excited to do video now I have to buy a new laptop cause my two macs that run serato glitch free apparently doesn't have enough ram for video. So there goes another 3000$ minimum, probably closer to 5000$ for the MacBook I want. Then your tellin me I have to do all this encoding and shit. I don't have time for all this.
Very frustrated.
Very frustrated.
dj disturbed
7:27 PM - 12 February, 2008
Very frustrated.
lol that reminds me, I was with the onwer of one club buying new sound equiptment for the club. I was talking about the spects of some audio euiptment with my guy at the shop. the onwer looks at us and says, "That all sound like Greek to me"... the funny thing is he IS greek and his father (who is the real owner of the club) talks greek to all the time.
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all this reading about video is Greek to me. Its making me want to never do video. I was so excited to do video now I have to buy a new laptop cause my two macs that run serato glitch free apparently doesn't have enough ram for video. So there goes another 3000$ minimum, probably closer to 5000$ for the MacBook I want. Then your tellin me I have to do all this encoding and shit. I don't have time for all this.Very frustrated.
lol that reminds me, I was with the onwer of one club buying new sound equiptment for the club. I was talking about the spects of some audio euiptment with my guy at the shop. the onwer looks at us and says, "That all sound like Greek to me"... the funny thing is he IS greek and his father (who is the real owner of the club) talks greek to all the time.
DJ Ambassador Jr.
10:37 PM - 12 February, 2008
Very frustrated.
video is easy if you even bother to read the 'greek'
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all this reading about video is Greek to me. Its making me want to never do video. I was so excited to do video now I have to buy a new laptop cause my two macs that run serato glitch free apparently doesn't have enough ram for video. So there goes another 3000$ minimum, probably closer to 5000$ for the MacBook I want. Then your tellin me I have to do all this encoding and shit. I don't have time for all this.Very frustrated.
video is easy if you even bother to read the 'greek'
Dj_KaGeN
7:58 PM - 15 February, 2008
video takes 10 times more work in all aspects. the gear, downloading, editing, ripping, re-encoding... and people don't get it yet that we can actually spin it - so 10 times the explaining that we're going this shit LIVE.
not 10X the money though... damnit.
not 10X the money though... damnit.
stevie o
3:34 AM - 16 February, 2008
I'm charging more. No one should accept the same pay for doing video as they did for regular djin
Alixx J
12:10 PM - 16 February, 2008
It sucks cos my nightspot has huge video screens already showing music vids, but all you can do on their computer system is press start stop. I spoke to the area manager (it's a big chain group) and he said that he already paid out for his system, and he dosnt like scratching/mixing DJ's. He NEVER visits our place and dosnt know how i play, so im gunna patch my stuff into the screens anyway, once i have my vids organised.
At the moment when i play we have random music vids on the screens whilst i knock out different tunes using serato. Some of these manager guys just dont have a clue, if i have a week off we have loads of complaints and its only then that what i can do is really appreciated. It's cos ive been resident there 3 years and people get used to you..
It sucks money wise, but I think im gunna end up doing it for my own enjoyment anyway.
At the moment when i play we have random music vids on the screens whilst i knock out different tunes using serato. Some of these manager guys just dont have a clue, if i have a week off we have loads of complaints and its only then that what i can do is really appreciated. It's cos ive been resident there 3 years and people get used to you..
It sucks money wise, but I think im gunna end up doing it for my own enjoyment anyway.
dj disturbed
9:00 PM - 16 February, 2008
yeah.... worked in a few clubs where their version of a video mixer is a radio shack 3 button video selector, they have Pio DVJ's in the booth, but didnt feel the need to spend the money on a GD video mixer.
Filthy King
11:54 AM - 18 February, 2008
Will the video-sl ever work with the sl1 box because i would like to use the empath mixer and if so when. Also is their an empath with serato built in. Mod Please Help.
Deejay Z
9:30 PM - 18 February, 2008
Works with my SL1 and DJM600....ur missing out on the easter egg! ;-)
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Will the video-sl ever work with the sl1 box because i would like to use the empath mixer and if so when. Also is their an empath with serato built in. Mod Please Help.Works with my SL1 and DJM600....ur missing out on the easter egg! ;-)
Filthy King
11:48 PM - 18 February, 2008
Does the SL1 really work with Video-SL cuz i cant get a definitive answer and this is the big question.
Matt G
12:06 AM - 19 February, 2008
No the SL 1 does not currently work with Video-SL. Here is the official line on hardware support: www.scratchlive.net
Filthy King
1:55 AM - 19 February, 2008
Matt is it safe to assume that i can get the Empath mixer to use with my SL 1 box because the VSL compatible w/ SL1 will be coming out soon and that my SL 1 box wont become obsolete with future releases. Or is the 57 the must have if your looking to stay current in the Serato line because all future add-ons and/or plugins will be configured to the 57.
Matt G
2:47 AM - 19 February, 2008
No timeline (or confirmation) has been given for when (and whether) VSL will work with the SL 1, so I'd say it's not safe to assume :)
I think that it *is* safe to assume that the SL 1 will not be made obsolete. Although I don't think we have any official line on it, dropping support for the SL 1 has never come up in any discussions I've heard. We're not in the business of screwing our customers over :)
The 57 SL has characteristics that are quite different from the SL 1 (being that it is a mixer), and as such there are some things that make more sense for the 57 SL that don't make sense for the SL 1. I wouldn't say that *all* future add ons or plugins would be designed for the 57 SL, but some may be.
I'd say buy the product that suits your current needs. If your needs change in the future then you can always trade up when that time comes. So if you're wanting to do video in Scratch LIVE now then a 57 SL fits your needs now. If you're not into doing video and you've already got a mixer you're happy with, then maybe the SL 1 suits you better.
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because the VSL compatible w/ SL1 will be coming out soonNo timeline (or confirmation) has been given for when (and whether) VSL will work with the SL 1, so I'd say it's not safe to assume :)
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my SL 1 box wont become obsolete with future releasesI think that it *is* safe to assume that the SL 1 will not be made obsolete. Although I don't think we have any official line on it, dropping support for the SL 1 has never come up in any discussions I've heard. We're not in the business of screwing our customers over :)
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Or is the 57 the must have if your looking to stay current in the Serato line because all future add-ons and/or plugins will be configured to the 57.The 57 SL has characteristics that are quite different from the SL 1 (being that it is a mixer), and as such there are some things that make more sense for the 57 SL that don't make sense for the SL 1. I wouldn't say that *all* future add ons or plugins would be designed for the 57 SL, but some may be.
I'd say buy the product that suits your current needs. If your needs change in the future then you can always trade up when that time comes. So if you're wanting to do video in Scratch LIVE now then a 57 SL fits your needs now. If you're not into doing video and you've already got a mixer you're happy with, then maybe the SL 1 suits you better.
Filthy King
3:59 AM - 19 February, 2008
Thanks for the help. I appreciate your honest professional opinion.
Filthy King
5:04 PM - 21 February, 2008
Now that i have a new 57SL what am I to do with my still new SL1 Box. Any suggestions?
Filthy King
5:06 PM - 21 February, 2008
Now that i have a new 57SL what am I to do with my still new SL1 Box? Any suggestions?
Filthy King
5:16 PM - 21 February, 2008
Now that i have a new 57SL what am I to do with my still new SL1 Box? Any suggestions?
dj disturbed
6:30 PM - 21 February, 2008
learn that you only need to post the same question once..... :-P
keep you SL1 box as a back-up, b/c you cant always use the 57 in all clubs. now you have the best of both worlds.
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Now that i have a new 57SL what am I to do with my still new SL1 Box. Any suggestions?learn that you only need to post the same question once..... :-P
keep you SL1 box as a back-up, b/c you cant always use the 57 in all clubs. now you have the best of both worlds.
itchie
7:26 PM - 21 February, 2008
i had to send in my 57 in for repairs and i was glad i kept the sl box so i could keep get'n paid... i was actually thinking of buying another 57 to have as a backup (now that my gigs include video)
Dj Mayhem
2:51 AM - 24 February, 2008
imkeeping mine as backup / second one. If im not doing video i have a mixer in case with the box hooked up. then idont have to disconnect ever :)
waffelz
2:14 PM - 10 March, 2008
filthy...my budy just got the 57sl(BASTARD!)with the video sl plugg in(I HATE HIM-hopefully he's not reading this as i knwo he's read some of my posts and if so fugg it he knwos ilove him{i hate you!!}) anyways i tried to buy his old box off hima nd he told me no! the reason being he's nto going to be dragging his mixer out to many shows it 's mroe of a home use and or for the purpose of visuals(why would you want random party flailer dj's touching your pride and joy) so he needs to keep his box as a just in case for shows type a deal
so if your nto smart enough to keep it as a jsut in case...I'll buy it off you man
but I'm a cheap mofo
so if your nto smart enough to keep it as a jsut in case...I'll buy it off you man
but I'm a cheap mofo
DJ_SK
8:28 PM - 7 July, 2008
No timeline (or confirmation) has been given for when (and whether) VSL will work with the SL 1, so I'd say it's not safe to assume :)
Hi,
To follow on from the above, I think Rane are missing a huge trick here. I am a big fan of Serato and have been using it professionally, 6 nights a week for a couple of years now in many different venues with a variety of equipment and it has never let me down. I never want to go back to using CDs or DVDs and recently I have started to DJ in clubs that have video projection capability and naturally I want to move forward and use music videos and visuals in my sets.
However - and this is the problem - every venue I go to, understandably, has their own DVD based equipment, mostly the Pioneer DVDJs with the SVM-1000 mixer. This means if I want to start mixing video I have to take DVDs with me as well as Serato - which is a step backward.
WHY, when Serato beautifully enabled it's original product to easily link into any club mixer and cd player/deck, have they brought out the Video-SL version which can ONLY be used with the Rane mixer?!! The reason I bought it is so I can use it anywhere, and this comletely detracts from the universal compatability that Rane aimed for in the first place!
Surely it would be relatively easy to develop an SL-1 type interface, adding a composite phono connection to the outputs to deliver the video - this would make it compatible with any video mixer, eg the SVM-1000. You don't need the ability to crossfade or add effects as the mixer you plug it into will do this for you.
Please, please do this, and soon, as I don't want to spend nearly a grand on, or carry around equipment I don't need, plus many venues will not let you take apart their DJ console to add your own equipment. The longer this goes on the more DVDs I will have to buy until it will be pointless taking my serato laptop at all. Also I believe Rane could lose a lot of business from existing and future professional DJs in the same situation if a solution to integrate with other video mixers is not made available.
I'm sure a lot of people will agree...
Thanks to Rane for an awesome product so far, don't make me stop using it!
End of rant!
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because the VSL compatible w/ SL1 will be coming out soonNo timeline (or confirmation) has been given for when (and whether) VSL will work with the SL 1, so I'd say it's not safe to assume :)
Hi,
To follow on from the above, I think Rane are missing a huge trick here. I am a big fan of Serato and have been using it professionally, 6 nights a week for a couple of years now in many different venues with a variety of equipment and it has never let me down. I never want to go back to using CDs or DVDs and recently I have started to DJ in clubs that have video projection capability and naturally I want to move forward and use music videos and visuals in my sets.
However - and this is the problem - every venue I go to, understandably, has their own DVD based equipment, mostly the Pioneer DVDJs with the SVM-1000 mixer. This means if I want to start mixing video I have to take DVDs with me as well as Serato - which is a step backward.
WHY, when Serato beautifully enabled it's original product to easily link into any club mixer and cd player/deck, have they brought out the Video-SL version which can ONLY be used with the Rane mixer?!! The reason I bought it is so I can use it anywhere, and this comletely detracts from the universal compatability that Rane aimed for in the first place!
Surely it would be relatively easy to develop an SL-1 type interface, adding a composite phono connection to the outputs to deliver the video - this would make it compatible with any video mixer, eg the SVM-1000. You don't need the ability to crossfade or add effects as the mixer you plug it into will do this for you.
Please, please do this, and soon, as I don't want to spend nearly a grand on, or carry around equipment I don't need, plus many venues will not let you take apart their DJ console to add your own equipment. The longer this goes on the more DVDs I will have to buy until it will be pointless taking my serato laptop at all. Also I believe Rane could lose a lot of business from existing and future professional DJs in the same situation if a solution to integrate with other video mixers is not made available.
I'm sure a lot of people will agree...
Thanks to Rane for an awesome product so far, don't make me stop using it!
End of rant!
D-Twizzle
10:38 PM - 7 July, 2008
why would they need to develop a new interface with video out? vsl uses your computer's video outputs.
DJ-Phat-AL
12:35 AM - 8 July, 2008
Surely it would be relatively easy to develop an SL-1 type interface, adding a composite phono connection to the outputs to deliver the video - this would make it compatible with any video mixer, eg the SVM-1000. You don't need the ability to crossfade or add effects as the mixer you plug it into will do this for you.
they are missing the boat.
You can do this NOW with Virtual DJ. And it is midi compatible so you can enable crossfading video on the pioneer board if you want to.
With the newer version of Virtual DJ (ver. 5.1) it has as tight as a timecode as Serato. ... so as far complaining about timecode feel... that is non-existent.
My ONLY advice is to NOT buy the Numark version for the damn soundcard is crap. If you use a PC you can actually use the SL-1 serato soundcard with Virtual DJ... and can NOW use Serato timecode vinyls too. If you have a MAC... get a better soundcard like the "NI Audio 8 DJ".
I am telling you guys... all the complaints about Serato Video are answered with Virtual DJ. If I only did audio DJ-ing (which I don't) I would use Serato full time... but I do video 100% of the time and after extensive testing between both products and investing into two powerful laptops (PC & MAC) ... virtual dj won with features, quality, compatibility, etc.
I don't work for them & I am not trying to pursade anyone to use it instead of Serato... but if you are a professional VIDEO DJ then explore ALL options out there!!!
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Surely it would be relatively easy to develop an SL-1 type interface, adding a composite phono connection to the outputs to deliver the video - this would make it compatible with any video mixer, eg the SVM-1000. You don't need the ability to crossfade or add effects as the mixer you plug it into will do this for you.
they are missing the boat.
You can do this NOW with Virtual DJ. And it is midi compatible so you can enable crossfading video on the pioneer board if you want to.
With the newer version of Virtual DJ (ver. 5.1) it has as tight as a timecode as Serato. ... so as far complaining about timecode feel... that is non-existent.
My ONLY advice is to NOT buy the Numark version for the damn soundcard is crap. If you use a PC you can actually use the SL-1 serato soundcard with Virtual DJ... and can NOW use Serato timecode vinyls too. If you have a MAC... get a better soundcard like the "NI Audio 8 DJ".
I am telling you guys... all the complaints about Serato Video are answered with Virtual DJ. If I only did audio DJ-ing (which I don't) I would use Serato full time... but I do video 100% of the time and after extensive testing between both products and investing into two powerful laptops (PC & MAC) ... virtual dj won with features, quality, compatibility, etc.
I don't work for them & I am not trying to pursade anyone to use it instead of Serato... but if you are a professional VIDEO DJ then explore ALL options out there!!!
eye357
11:37 PM - 17 July, 2008
well said PHAT I rock both according to parties clubs lounges private parties etc..., if u spin video get btoh VDJ AND SERATO. well worth it. just think of as having to buy two turntables like back in the day..lol
DJ Davey PR
2:29 AM - 23 July, 2008
I'am gooing crazy wit this shit of videos, does Virtual DJ work wit the 57sl? I Love Serato but they need to work wit the compatibility, its to much work to do encoding.
eye357
2:42 AM - 23 July, 2008
YES VIRTUALDJ WORKS WITH 57sl, but only to run audio through u will control fader thru the on screen mixer, the 57sl will in turn be like an sl box. and it plays almost any file vob,mp4,avi,etc...,
DJ Davey PR
3:26 AM - 23 July, 2008
Thanks for the suport eye357, so you cant control the virtualdj with the 57sl? like to search for videos or music with the controls of the mixer?
DJ-Phat-AL
10:55 AM - 23 July, 2008
nope... the 57sl doesn't work like midi which you can control ANY midi compatible mixer like the pioneer djm800, ecler nuo4, etc... those have controls for video crossfading and other custom features YOU pick to control the way you like.
Zag
4:15 PM - 23 July, 2008
I just bought a new computer, I can not get it to see the drivers, (viao) i have even reinstalled 1.8.1 while pluged in, I never had this problem with my old viao, this one is running Vista, any suggestions?
VJ Justin Allen
11:17 AM - 25 July, 2008
DJ-Phat-Al
If you are on a mac, are you saying that the SL box will not work with Virtual DJ? That you need to buy an additional sound card?
If that's the case then serato would have nothing to do with Virtual DJ
If you are on a mac, are you saying that the SL box will not work with Virtual DJ? That you need to buy an additional sound card?
If that's the case then serato would have nothing to do with Virtual DJ
DJ-Phat-AL
12:44 AM - 26 July, 2008
I don't understand your questions.
VDJ is compatible with several soundcards including the SL-1 soundcard.
If you use a MAC though.. the SL-1 soundcard doesn't work. It works on a PC.
If you are on a MAC and want to use VDJ I would recommend the NI Audio 8 DJ soundcard (cheapest on-line $349). You still use your Serato Timecode Vinyls too!!
The NI Audio 8 DJ soundcard also has a MIDI port on the soundcard built in. You can directly connect that up to ANY MIDI compatible mixer to use it to control VDJ software. Crossfading video, cues, loops, effets, etc.
So the question would be this to all...
Would you rather spend $1200 or so to buy a mixer which is the only way you can use Serato's video... oh and the $200 for the plug in? or... if you already own serato... and you are using a PC... just go and buy Virtual DJ and use your existing soundcard and timecode vinyls and spin video NOW... and with NO restrictions... and with a wider compatibility with video formats.
If you do guest spots in nightclubs regularly you will find that not every club has a Rane ttm57sl installed... and they don't exactly like it when someone wants to move equipment around. The pioneer mixers are more common in the standard DJ booth now.
VDJ is compatible with several soundcards including the SL-1 soundcard.
If you use a MAC though.. the SL-1 soundcard doesn't work. It works on a PC.
If you are on a MAC and want to use VDJ I would recommend the NI Audio 8 DJ soundcard (cheapest on-line $349). You still use your Serato Timecode Vinyls too!!
The NI Audio 8 DJ soundcard also has a MIDI port on the soundcard built in. You can directly connect that up to ANY MIDI compatible mixer to use it to control VDJ software. Crossfading video, cues, loops, effets, etc.
So the question would be this to all...
Would you rather spend $1200 or so to buy a mixer which is the only way you can use Serato's video... oh and the $200 for the plug in? or... if you already own serato... and you are using a PC... just go and buy Virtual DJ and use your existing soundcard and timecode vinyls and spin video NOW... and with NO restrictions... and with a wider compatibility with video formats.
If you do guest spots in nightclubs regularly you will find that not every club has a Rane ttm57sl installed... and they don't exactly like it when someone wants to move equipment around. The pioneer mixers are more common in the standard DJ booth now.
nik39
6:55 PM - 26 July, 2008
A tightly integrated solution like VSL has its advantages. PLus SSL has been proven to be very very solid. Something which any other (yes, ANY!) DJ software has to achieve.
Why would they be happy then if you connect your gear (your soundcard, disconnect the TT's and connect them to your soundcard etc)?
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Would you rather spend $1200 or so to buy a mixer which is the only way you can use Serato's video... oh and the $200 for the plug in? or... if you already own serato... and you are using a PC... just go and buy Virtual DJ and use your existing soundcard and timecode vinyls and spin video NOW... and with NO restrictions... and with a wider compatibility with video formats.A tightly integrated solution like VSL has its advantages. PLus SSL has been proven to be very very solid. Something which any other (yes, ANY!) DJ software has to achieve.
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If you do guest spots in nightclubs regularly you will find that not every club has a Rane ttm57sl installed... and they don't exactly like it when someone wants to move equipment around.Why would they be happy then if you connect your gear (your soundcard, disconnect the TT's and connect them to your soundcard etc)?
VJ Justin Allen
7:21 PM - 26 July, 2008
Phat,
Ah never mind, I just typed what I wanted to say in another video thread.
Ah never mind, I just typed what I wanted to say in another video thread.
DJ Ambassador Jr.
6:15 PM - 17 October, 2008
What about MixEmergency? How many of you have tried it?
DJ Dan-E
6:13 AM - 10 November, 2008
I have tired it, and works great, using my ecler evo 5 mixer (MIDI) and sl1 box. What would be nice for serato and MixEmergency to do is make the video windows bigger!.
Dj 58Stylz
10:11 PM - 11 November, 2008
Sup! fellas...im new to the djay world and ive been hearing alot of serato video-sl...my cousin gave me his pioneer djm909 and i was wonder if the video-sl will work with this mixer or do i have to use the rane......oh and he gave me his serato box
Dj Nathan King
6:42 PM - 6 January, 2009
Hey Guys I just got my Vsl up and going I do have a question how can I record my video mixes and put them on a cd or DVD
mizu
7:06 PM - 6 January, 2009
YOu will need some type of video capture card, that is one way. You need to repost this in a new thread, or else it will not get seen
djMPULSE
11:23 PM - 7 January, 2009
Sup guys im in the works to buying a new laptop... Im dont want to start a MAC vs PC post.
All im asking is what are the best 2 laptops out there. In the MAC world, i know the mac book pro is the best way to go, BUT what about in the PC world? I have a DJM 800 with midi feature at home and would like to spin videos but the club has a 57sl.
Im looking for a laptop that can do the job for both mixers at the club and at home and other clubs with the djm 800(vdj installed of course).
Thanks to all that can help me.
All im asking is what are the best 2 laptops out there. In the MAC world, i know the mac book pro is the best way to go, BUT what about in the PC world? I have a DJM 800 with midi feature at home and would like to spin videos but the club has a 57sl.
Im looking for a laptop that can do the job for both mixers at the club and at home and other clubs with the djm 800(vdj installed of course).
Thanks to all that can help me.
mizu
11:55 PM - 9 January, 2009
All Day Every Day.....But you just let the dogs out...Fa Sho!
in 3, 2, 1
in 3, 2, 1
DJ FLAVOR
5:17 AM - 10 January, 2009
Apple has the NEW 17" Macbook Pro upgradable to 2.93 GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo and 8GB of RAM!! It will run you around $5,000 bucks if $$ is not an issue. Unfortunately the new battery is NOT removable. A pain and and huge problem if you end up having to change out ram etc.
You will also have to wait 3 - 4 weeks.
If you don't want or are unable to wait... The most powerful Macbook Pro is the 15" 2.8 GHZ 4GB 320 GB Harddrive. Thats the way to go if you want the best NOW.
You will also have to wait 3 - 4 weeks.
If you don't want or are unable to wait... The most powerful Macbook Pro is the 15" 2.8 GHZ 4GB 320 GB Harddrive. Thats the way to go if you want the best NOW.
DJ FLAVOR
5:31 AM - 10 January, 2009
My apologies, the video is specifically for the 09' 17 Inch Macbook Pro
My apologies, the video is specifically for the 09' 17 Inch Macbook Pro
djwilly zone
4:18 PM - 18 March, 2009
hey guys whats up.....i want to know if i can install the video software in 2 laptops or do i have to buy 2 software cd's for each 1?
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