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VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH 2,0 RELEASE

DJTONY1200 11:56 AM - 13 April, 2010
So far Im very disappointed with the release of 2.0. First of all, I am a Ableton Live user and have been for a long time. Im so sick of all the hype that serato has been making for such a long time about "The Bridge" linking ableton with serato. Anticipated by many, should have been released with 2,0. So far ive seen NOTHING on the bridge, and serato makes it VERY unclear on when the actual release date is. I could be waiting another 6 months for this!!! Only stuff released is Scratch Live 2.0 which has effects (Which anyone with a half decent mixer has all the effects ever needed, as I have a Pioneer DJM 800). Also released with 2.0 is a Very cheesy looking serato.....more square looking buttons everywhere.....I def think they need to go back to the original looking buttons or atleast make a skin available to have the original look back. In my opinion, the new look makes serato look cheap. If i wanted a cheap and cheesy looking dj program I would have got Virtual DJ....which it seems like serato is begining to look like that. Whats next?!? fake tone arm and moving records on the screen! Come on Serato, When are you going to release THE BRIDGE....REALLY!
xplycyt 12:09 PM - 13 April, 2010
go get traktor goddamit...it's a free upgrade - take it as is and stop bitching.

and they've said bridge will be part of 2.1 - the lack of an official release date means they will ensure that it has been fully tested in order to ensure the stability and reliability SSL is known and loved for.

why won't people stop complaining...geez!
s3kn0tr0n1c 12:09 PM - 13 April, 2010
I dont think the new skin is really that bad, it has got its good points- the meters are more accurate and better to read. The new way of viewing what in each crate is better....i like how if you change the wide of your crate collom when on the artwork mode you can have it display from 2-4 records on each row....this will defo benefit me when the 68 is released and i can have each row set to a 3 deck mix/3 songs per row with the tracks on respective space to deck......then i know these 3 tracks are to be together and will work...

Not too impressed with the fx, i'd rather use outboard fx on my mixers send return but they are there for peeps that want them so no problem there....

Im just HATING havin to wait until i can mix more than 2 decks on serato....I've only got sl1 and no point buying sl3 when i want the 68.........

Also hating havin to wait till the bridge...............

But as the old saying goes....all good things come to those who wait...... so ask me in 6 months/yr what i think of version 2 when its bridge/68 is all out...
Maskrider 12:10 PM - 13 April, 2010
I guess this is the time for you to go to VDJ.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:51 PM - 13 April, 2010
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So far Im very disappointed with the release of 2.0. First of all, I am a Ableton Live user and have been for a long time. Im so sick of all the hype that serato has been making for such a long time about "The Bridge" linking ableton with serato. Anticipated by many, should have been released with 2,0. So far ive seen NOTHING on the bridge, and serato makes it VERY unclear on when the actual release date is. I could be waiting another 6 months for this!!! Only stuff released is Scratch Live 2.0 which has effects (Which anyone with a half decent mixer has all the effects ever needed, as I have a Pioneer DJM 800). Also released with 2.0 is a Very cheesy looking serato.....more square looking buttons everywhere.....I def think they need to go back to the original looking buttons or atleast make a skin available to have the original look back. In my opinion, the new look makes serato look cheap. If i wanted a cheap and cheesy looking dj program I would have got Virtual DJ....which it seems like serato is begining to look like that. Whats next?!? fake tone arm and moving records on the screen! Come on Serato, When are you going to release THE BRIDGE....REALLY!

you do realise that the bridge is not avaliable because the updates that ableton made to their side make ableton unstable by itself, until they work out those issues serato has to throttle back on their progess......like i said before, scratchlive wont work flawless with ableton until ableton works flawless with ableton. Why on earth would they release the bridge while ableton is still making critical updated to keep all the bugs out of their side, if they did they would be getting crashes left and right and people would be on here bitching that SL is at fault. Its kinda par for the territiory when your making a biproduct of 2 pieces of software this large between 2 companys. If you wanna complain further aim it where it beongs, if you need help ill help find you a link to an ableton forum ;)
dj_soo 3:54 PM - 13 April, 2010
and if they released bridge before it was ready, you'd be on here bitching about how unstable it is.
Audio1 3:57 PM - 13 April, 2010
FREE SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND NO ONE IS EVER HAPPY ON THIS FORUM!
JRAlexander 4:06 PM - 13 April, 2010
seriously
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:17 PM - 13 April, 2010
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FREE SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND NO ONE IS EVER HAPPY ON THIS FORUM!



.......im pretty damn content
blackavenger 4:18 PM - 13 April, 2010
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FREE SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND NO ONE IS EVER HAPPY ON THIS FORUM!


That statement deserves all CAPS!

What's wrong with you people?....it's free! Not everything that everyone wants will be implemented in every (or any) release, for that matter. I want vertical waveforms whilst using 3 decks......is that going to happen.......who knows? Am I going to bitch, cry, and moan that they are not present........no! Constructive criticism, or STFU!
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:28 PM - 13 April, 2010
im really happy with whatever the god folks at serato trickle down to me. I love the software the features are awsome it works great and i LOVE knowing theres bigger better things comming down the line. They havent let me down yet. Theres a thing or 2 here and there i would like to see improved but im def not complaining
DJ Stoyvo 5:06 PM - 13 April, 2010
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So far Im very disappointed with the release of 2.0. First of all, I am a Ableton Live user and have been for a long time. Im so sick of all the hype that serato has been making for such a long time about "The Bridge" linking ableton with serato. Anticipated by many, should have been released with 2,0. So far ive seen NOTHING on the bridge, and serato makes it VERY unclear on when the actual release date is. I could be waiting another 6 months for this!!! Only stuff released is Scratch Live 2.0 which has effects (Which anyone with a half decent mixer has all the effects ever needed, as I have a Pioneer DJM 800). Also released with 2.0 is a Very cheesy looking serato.....more square looking buttons everywhere.....I def think they need to go back to the original looking buttons or atleast make a skin available to have the original look back. In my opinion, the new look makes serato look cheap. If i wanted a cheap and cheesy looking dj program I would have got Virtual DJ....which it seems like serato is begining to look like that. Whats next?!? fake tone arm and moving records on the screen! Come on Serato, When are you going to release THE BRIDGE....REALLY!


Isn't the bridge already messed up by ableton? Try posting on your own software's forum about the issue before bringing your crap here.

I do agree that the twist with their look is very cheesy, but it's just the buttons. Everything else is the same still.

And yes, the effects were a waste. I don't even use effects on my korg mixer.
Polanka 5:35 PM - 13 April, 2010
I personally love the new look and all the new features and guess what I didn't have to pay an upgrade fee. It was free!

You should of joined the beta testers group and made suggestions to help the Serato team make things better. But now that its all done you want to point out everything you dont like. Its to late now for you to complain, you should adjust to what we have now and be patient for the Bridge release.
dj_soo 5:38 PM - 13 April, 2010
actually the fact that's he's disappointed that 2.0 doesn't contain a feature that was never announced as being released in 2.0 takes the cake.
dj-cab 5:51 PM - 13 April, 2010
Sup people. Don't know if this has been addressed somewhere else, but ever since I upgraded to 2.0, SSL is taking a lot longer to load. I have about 26k songs and It used to take about 15 seconds to fully load up my playlists and iTunes library. With 2.0, it's taking almost a minute. Are you guys experiencing the same thing?
DJ Stoyvo 6:00 PM - 13 April, 2010
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Sup people. Don't know if this has been addressed somewhere else, but ever since I upgraded to 2.0, SSL is taking a lot longer to load. I have about 26k songs and It used to take about 15 seconds to fully load up my playlists and iTunes library. With 2.0, it's taking almost a minute. Are you guys experiencing the same thing?


i have only 20 k in my library and it takes about 4-6 seconds. in 1.9.2 it took a maybe 3-5 seconds
terrible1fi 6:12 PM - 13 April, 2010
dj cab try deleting all your history..
KYLE SMILE 6:15 PM - 13 April, 2010
I agree with DJTONY1200 and also think that Serato should provide a free BMW car to all users too along with daily upgrades to match our moods.

Changing the buttons has completely changed the software too and i may give up on the £700 a week i'm earning from dj'ing due to this.
jprime 6:16 PM - 13 April, 2010
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actually the fact that's he's disappointed that 2.0 doesn't contain a feature that was never announced as being released in 2.0 takes the cake.


FTW.
DJ Stoyvo 6:18 PM - 13 April, 2010
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I agree with DJTONY1200 and also think that Serato should provide a free BMW car to all users too along with daily upgrades to match our moods.

Changing the buttons has completely changed the software too and i may give up on the £700 a week i'm earning from dj'ing due to this.


lol...


be happy you're not running virtual dj :P
Phil Anthony 6:26 PM - 13 April, 2010
Just downloaded. iTunes load times are the same and upon initial testing getting less screen stuttering than in 1.9.2 which is really nice. Everything seems to run just a bit smoother than 1.9.2. I like the more accurate indicators as well and could give a shit about the square buttons. Will def spend some time with it tonight at band practice. Good work Serato/Rane.

Phil
jepe 6:31 PM - 13 April, 2010
worked 4 hours last saturday. with efx enable. smoothed and perfect.
a DJ 6:47 PM - 13 April, 2010
Yup, I was extremely happy the final was released. I already had it actually, cuz they said it wouldn't have any more changes unless they found a bug. Luckily right before my gig on Friday they put it out as the final.

Obviously effects can't be aux without inputs/outputs, but I learned how to use em good thanks to a MIDI keyboard that lets me enable them quickly and also switch to internal & stop the song if I want to.
a DJ 6:48 PM - 13 April, 2010
I have to agree the skin does look cheaper, though there are some things I like about it better. Plus the many new viewing options of decks and songs make up for it tenmillionfold lol.
Evon 7:42 PM - 13 April, 2010
I have been using the 2.0 beta versions and now the 2.0 release. I can't even remember how the 1.9 versions looked like. 2.0 feels just like home to me now :)
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:47 PM - 13 April, 2010
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I have been using the 2.0 beta versions and now the 2.0 release. I can't even remember how the 1.9 versions looked like. 2.0 feels just like home to me now :)

+1
justdizle 7:55 PM - 13 April, 2010
"people want old shit, buy my old album, people stuck on stupid, i gotta keep it movin" jay-z


just create ur own app
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:56 PM - 13 April, 2010
1.9 is still avaliable for download you know
latindj 8:24 PM - 13 April, 2010
DJ TONY LITTLE? is that you????
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:26 PM - 13 April, 2010
LMFAO...I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THINKIN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phil Anthony 10:07 PM - 13 April, 2010
Quick efx comment. Seems the echo doesn't tail after you move the crossfader off the channel where the echo was engaged. Am I missing something on this?
Dj-M.Bezzle 10:08 PM - 13 April, 2010
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Quick efx comment. Seems the echo doesn't tail after you move the crossfader off the channel where the echo was engaged. Am I missing something on this?



yup it was in the 1st post and a ton after it. The echo is pre fader not pos fader as the processign is done in the software BEFORE it hits your mixer. Try enabling the echo and then turning off the turntable to get the desired effect
Phil Anthony 10:56 PM - 13 April, 2010
got it. Not a huge deal but appreciate the info. Thanks man.
dj_soo 1:29 AM - 14 April, 2010
another thing you can do is set up a high pass filter, turn it all the way up so no signal gets through on one bank, set up the echo on the other bank.

when you want to echo out, turn the echo on, then turn the high pass filter on.
Dj Ace 2:10 AM - 14 April, 2010
LOVE the new look soooo clean now! And everything works so smoothly i don't really understand your problems????
As-One 2:16 AM - 14 April, 2010
I couldn't do this until 2.0: twitpic.com
Marx&Villain 2:58 AM - 14 April, 2010
lol where did mr tony1200 go? i know you've gotta be following this thread still...do you feel like an asshole yet?

i hope so.

free upgrade bro, SSL2.0 or gtfo
Laz219 4:04 AM - 14 April, 2010
People always bitch about any GUI change in programs, if they switched it back after a couple of months of the new one everyone would bitch that they liked the old (new) one better.
Sounds like people bitching when Facebook gets changed and start demanding it gets changed back to the original way, if you don't like it, don't use it.

The bridge was never written as being part of 2.0, it's a feature that is still in development.
Serato can never win, people bitch at them for never dropping dates for updates. They showed of 2.0 quickly and everyone spent the next few months bitching that it was taking to long.
djchase 4:26 AM - 14 April, 2010
1.9 for me right now i think it looks waaay smoother than 2.0 too much square buttons but then again thanks for the new release guys will wait for something more stable to play at my gigs
Serato, Support
ChrisD 5:33 AM - 14 April, 2010
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will wait for something more stable to play at my gigs

djchase, are you having stability issues with 2.0?
Jamestwo 6:26 AM - 14 April, 2010
I am loving 2.0. The new look is different but its just gonna take some getting used to. I have all the efx mapped to my faders on the MPD32 and have the cue point triggers mapped to the pads so I can do mpc style chops on the fly. I wish the repeater effect was better but I have just been using the auto loop function. Anyone got a custom preset thats badass?
Marx&Villain 6:28 AM - 14 April, 2010
it took me about 30 seconds to get used to the new look, coincidentally it took me those first 30 seconds to find the DJFX plug in in the set up tab lol.

crazy how stuff works sometimes huh LOL
DJMaytag 6:43 AM - 14 April, 2010
thus far Smart Crates have been a serious let down. I've been trying to set mine up and am finding some bugs and odd behaviour. i hope the maintenance release clears a lot of that up.
Marx&Villain 6:57 AM - 14 April, 2010
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thus far Smart Crates have been a serious let down. I've been trying to set mine up and am finding some bugs and odd behaviour. i hope the maintenance release clears a lot of that up.


smart crates work fine for me on all of my systems. I remember logging a feature request for nested smart crates, other than the fact that they (thus far) cannot be nested, the smart crates feature should work perfectly assuming you have the correct parameters set.
Nicky Blunt 7:09 AM - 14 April, 2010
Evidently nesting will become available shortly, which is fantastic news!

Smart crates By Decade - All nested will be awesomeness!!!!
DJMaytag 7:23 AM - 14 April, 2010
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smart crates work fine for me on all of my systems. I remember logging a feature request for nested smart crates, other than the fact that they (thus far) cannot be nested, the smart crates feature should work perfectly assuming you have the correct parameters set.

yes, I have the right parameters set, but number sorting/ordering is an absolute joke thus far. there's no way to set up a smart crate to order it they way you want, not any way that I've been able to actually keep it in a certain order.
sixxx 1:43 PM - 14 April, 2010
If you're disappointed with 2.0, I don't know what to tell you. lol

It's by far the best update.
Evil_banana 2:23 PM - 14 April, 2010
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If you're disappointed with 2.0, I don't know what to tell you. lol

It's by far the best update.

Well, it still doesn't go and fetch me a beer while I'm spinning, so there's still room for improvement. Oh, and it also should fill out my taxforms, I am sick and tired of Serato not handling that shit for me... *cough*



(2.0 rox! 2.1 will earthquake!)
sixxx 2:29 PM - 14 April, 2010
lol
Marx&Villain 6:50 PM - 14 April, 2010
lololol
rlaci 7:30 PM - 14 April, 2010
i better like the old skin too :S
DJ Val-BKNY11203 11:33 PM - 14 April, 2010
Did he take his ball and go home?
Swizzle 11:49 PM - 14 April, 2010
If you just use it for more than 9minutes, you'll forget what the old skin looks like.
EQ's levels are waaay better.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 1:50 AM - 15 April, 2010
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FREE SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND NO ONE IS EVER HAPPY ON THIS FORUM!


.......im pretty damn content


Hell, the last time I JUMPED on mo-fo's complaining about FREE SHIT on here, it turned into a big debate of "No, it's NOT FREE, you PAID for these updates when you bought the Serato Package, it was a selling point, yada..yada...yada...

Of course Nik39 was involved.....

And then one of the Serato people on here co-signed it...
DJMaytag 1:58 AM - 15 April, 2010
my complaint is only that something (smartcrates) that was supposed to make life much easier, is only making things much much MUCH more complicated. IMHO they should have waited to put smartcrates in the 2.1 release since they're so incredibly buggy.

Pretty basic stuff works, like pulling tracks into the smartcrate, but being able to use the number sorting to arrange files within the smartcrate has been a disaster.
pdidy 2:24 AM - 15 April, 2010
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Did he take his ball and go home?

now that was funny.....iwas thinkin the same thing...lol
Serato, Support
ChrisD 2:48 AM - 15 April, 2010
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Hell, the last time I JUMPED on mo-fo's complaining about FREE SHIT on here, it turned into a big debate of "No, it's NOT FREE, you PAID for these updates when you bought the Serato Package, it was a selling point, yada..yada...yada...

The no-cost software updates are a selling point of Scratch Live and ITCH systems, no doubt about it.

But that "free"-ness should not (and will never) be used as a means of justifying the quality of a release. All of our software releases should be held to the high standard that you guys expect of us.

That fact that you get these updates for no additional cost over and above the initial purchase price is just another reason why you made a good choice purchasing a Serato product, right :-)
DJMaytag 2:58 AM - 15 April, 2010
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That fact that you get these updates for no additional cost over and above the initial purchase price is just another reason why you made a good choice purchasing a Serato product, right :-)

indeed.
DJJOHNNYM_vSL3 3:16 AM - 15 April, 2010
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That fact that you get these updates for no additional cost over and above the initial purchase price is just another reason why you made a good choice purchasing a Serato product, right :-)


That's a pretty powerful statement there man!
dj shadow from detroit 3:24 AM - 15 April, 2010
+1
Mike_P 3:53 AM - 15 April, 2010
i haven't had any issues with dropouts or crashes which is great BUT when i have the album artwork grid open, my keyboard commands for navigating through the crate are greatly effected. it takes about a full second for the computer to perform the action of the key i pressed. haven't had a chance to see if this also goes for the function keys but this in itself is a real bummer for me since i was really looking forward to using the album artwork to search through tracks.
djchase 1:43 PM - 15 April, 2010
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will wait for something more stable to play at my gigs

djchase, are you having stability issues with 2.0?


yes some random times it freezes up and music still plays but no control (dont worry i cleared all playlist etc)
ryansupak 3:37 PM - 15 April, 2010
I've had a few weird semi-crashes with 2.0 also.

rs
Logisticalstyles 4:05 PM - 15 April, 2010
I can't hardly use my HC1000 with 2.0

The thing rarely works since I downloaded 2.0 and when it does work it doesn't work correctly. Right now I'm having to choose being able to use a $160 piece of gear that I paid for versus a free upgrade. I'm switching back to 1.9.8 and shopping for an effects unit.
So I guess I'm aggreeing with the original poster, but for different reasons. Disappointed.
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:09 PM - 15 April, 2010
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I can't hardly use my HC1000 with 2.0

The thing rarely works since I downloaded 2.0 and when it does work it doesn't work correctly. Right now I'm having to choose being able to use a $160 piece of gear that I paid for versus a free upgrade. I'm switching back to 1.9.8 and shopping for an effects unit.
So I guess I'm aggreeing with the original poster, but for different reasons. Disappointed.


whats the matter with your HC 1000...mines working fine with 2.0
PVK01 4:10 PM - 15 April, 2010
i like it..... plus its free.... damn chiyon :-P
Logisticalstyles 4:26 PM - 15 April, 2010
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I can't hardly use my HC1000 with 2.0

The thing rarely works since I downloaded 2.0 and when it does work it doesn't work correctly. Right now I'm having to choose being able to use a $160 piece of gear that I paid for versus a free upgrade. I'm switching back to 1.9.8 and shopping for an effects unit.
So I guess I'm aggreeing with the original poster, but for different reasons. Disappointed.


whats the matter with your HC 1000...mines working fine with 2.0


This: www.scratchlive.net
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:32 PM - 15 April, 2010
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I can't hardly use my HC1000 with 2.0

The thing rarely works since I downloaded 2.0 and when it does work it doesn't work correctly. Right now I'm having to choose being able to use a $160 piece of gear that I paid for versus a free upgrade. I'm switching back to 1.9.8 and shopping for an effects unit.
So I guess I'm aggreeing with the original poster, but for different reasons. Disappointed.


whats the matter with your HC 1000...mines working fine with 2.0


This: www.scratchlive.net



that was stange ive never had that issue...then i looked at your profile.....ill just go back to using my HC1000 flawlessly on my mac now. Good luck with the issue though


EVIL LAUGH

JK
Logisticalstyles 4:44 PM - 15 April, 2010
I know you've probably heard this a million times today but....

Screw you Bezzle! :) (no misquote)
Dj-M.Bezzle 4:50 PM - 15 April, 2010
lol
SL4eva 7:00 PM - 15 April, 2010
do any of you use mixed in key?
if so whats the best way to key tracks to serato?
is there a better faster easier way than manually keying every track?
also because i am manually keying my tracks serato doesnt recognise some of them and they go red and so do the tracks i buy from itunes
if anyone can give me any advice that would be a huge help as i am fairly new to the world of serato but lovin every minute of it!!

cheers guys
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:01 PM - 15 April, 2010
i used MIK and i love it, great program
SL4eva 7:02 PM - 15 April, 2010
P.S 2.0 ROCKS!!
DJ Stoyvo 7:51 PM - 15 April, 2010
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i used MIK and i love it, great program


My music prof's daughter did a video for them... it was the first mik intro video
Dj-M.Bezzle 7:56 PM - 15 April, 2010
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i used MIK and i love it, great program


My music prof's daughter did a video for them


thats hot
DJ Val-BKNY11203 8:41 PM - 15 April, 2010
I'm very disappointed with:
Santa Claus
The Easter Bunny
The Tooth Fairy
&
Big Foot
Nicky Blunt 9:12 PM - 15 April, 2010
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I'm very disappointed with:Santa ClausThe Easter BunnyThe Tooth Fairy&Big Foot


Haahahaha
fuck all this noise

when is 2.0.1 out allready!

hahaha
Deejaysk 10:27 PM - 16 April, 2010
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Constructive criticism, or STFU!
<--- Telling someone who have not asked you anything is constructive? Stop bullying.. give your opinion and stay on topic or STFU.
blackavenger 9:41 PM - 18 April, 2010
^ I was on topic, buddy! ^

Here's a little constructive criticism for you.......learn how to properly construct a sentence.

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Telling someone who have not asked you anything is constructive?


I don't even know what to say......go back to primary school, perhaps?
SL4eva 9:46 PM - 18 April, 2010
behave you 2!!
blackavenger 9:50 PM - 18 April, 2010
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behave you 2!!


I am, though you have to be able to defend yourself against idiocy! Go up and read my comment (10th post down from beginning). I was COMPLETELY on topic.
Serato, Support
ChrisD 11:14 PM - 18 April, 2010
djchase, Logisticalstyles and anyone else experiencing issues or weird behavior with 2.0,

Please create a Help Request and describe your problems. The Rane and Serato Support Teams will step in and work through your issues with you.

You can create a Help Request here serato.com or here scratchlive.net.
geeunot 11:55 PM - 18 April, 2010
where can we download 1.9.8? I didn't even know that was released...
djjoefresh 12:29 AM - 19 April, 2010
Um, can the webmaster just delete this topic? It seems kind of pointless.

2.0 is a great achievement, and is sure to lead to even greater improvements and developments down the road. I used 2.0 at a gig last night for 6 hours and it worked perfectly.

2.1 will have the long-awaited Ableton Bridge when it is ready (this was announced a long time ago). Be patient, I have every confidence that it will be just as awesome as we are all hoping.

Thank you Serato!
Proto J 9:41 AM - 19 April, 2010
serato is seriously slipping by having such a shitty key lock algorithm. they recently came in last amongst every other dj software company in a test of key locks.

quit adding all this new shit when you don't have something that old and simple right yet.
Nicky Blunt 10:39 AM - 19 April, 2010
Yo proto J hows your own keylock alogorythm going?

Thought so!
DJ Val-BKNY11203 11:50 AM - 19 April, 2010
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serato is seriously slipping by having such a shitty key lock algorithm. they recently came in last amongst every other dj software company in a test of key locks.

quit adding all this new shit when you don't have something that old and simple right yet.


I have never had any issues with my key lock. Then again I'm not a pitch abuser. I'm interested in hearing how far are you pushing it?
Dj Ace 12:45 PM - 19 April, 2010
Where are the links to this test proto j?
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:41 PM - 19 April, 2010
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serato is seriously slipping by having such a shitty key lock algorithm. they recently came in last amongst every other dj software company in a test of key locks.

quit adding all this new shit when you don't have something that old and simple right yet.



you could always turn the key lock off and mix on key the old school way
blackavenger 1:49 PM - 19 April, 2010
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serato is seriously slipping by having such a shitty key lock algorithm. they recently came in last amongst every other dj software company in a test of key locks.

quit adding all this new shit when you don't have something that old and simple right yet.


Though I'm not one to stifle progress, I do agree that they need to address some of the older issues such as Key Lock. Getting FLAC support would be nice as well. Though based on past performance regarding these two issues, I'm not going to hold my breath, and I suggest you do the same, Proto J : /
a DJ 4:27 PM - 19 April, 2010
lol I try to remind them about key lock before every version
here's the link to the test: www.djtechtools.com
DJ Val-BKNY11203 4:41 PM - 19 April, 2010
You are kidding me right? I know you can't be complaining about pitching a song +/- 30 BPMs past what it supposed to be. And expect it NOT to have SOME kind of flaws?

Really?


Really?
Jader 5:27 PM - 19 April, 2010
naw man, i def feel proto on the pitch lock thing. when playing dnb and dubstep especially.
LosMintos 8:42 PM - 19 April, 2010
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Getting FLAC support would be nice as well.
I would be happy about that!!!
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:43 PM - 19 April, 2010
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Getting AFLAC support would be nice as well.
I would be happy about that!!!


i love that duck
Dj-M.Bezzle 8:44 PM - 19 April, 2010
www.smithcenterks.com(WinCE).jpg
Laz219 11:14 PM - 19 April, 2010
That keylock test really isn't relevant. 28% pitch? If it was at a pitch anybody would actually use it'd make a lot more sense.
Millz 1:47 AM - 20 April, 2010
Im not having any problems with 2.0/1.2. Sorry to hear you are ;)
m0rph! 5:02 AM - 20 April, 2010
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serato is seriously slipping by having such a shitty key lock algorithm. they recently came in last amongst every other dj software company in a test of key locks.

quit adding all this new shit when you don't have something that old and simple right yet.


I personally think the keylock algorithm is "okay," but have been waiting patiently for the Pitch 'N Time plugin for... how long... oh WOW... here's my 4.5-year-old thread:

>>> serato.com <<<

Regardless, PROPS on 2.0 and the best support of any software I've every owned! =)
canicypher 6:33 AM - 20 April, 2010
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I couldn't do this until 2.0: twitpic.com


woa..i haven't Dl'd 2.0 (i'm running 1.9.0) but is there a vertical waveform option?! or did it go horizontal now and thats it!?...not gonna lie...i really like the vertical running waveform style. I just got a new macbook pro but haven't loaded serato yet, was planning on having everything up to date but the 'horizontal only' could act be a deal breaker for me. So am i gonna have to stay in the past??! or is this something u can change in 2.0
al83 7:04 AM - 20 April, 2010
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I couldn't do this until 2.0: twitpic.com


woa..i haven't Dl'd 2.0 (i'm running 1.9.0) but is there a vertical waveform option?! or did it go horizontal now and thats it!?...not gonna lie...i really like the vertical running waveform style. I just got a new macbook pro but haven't loaded serato yet, was planning on having everything up to date but the 'horizontal only' could act be a deal breaker for me. So am i gonna have to stay in the past??! or is this something u can change in 2.0

you can have both.
canicypher 7:28 AM - 20 April, 2010
:::wipes nervous sweat from forehead::

nice..and thanks..
Proto J 8:34 AM - 20 April, 2010
nah, put on akon & snoop's "i wanna fuck you" (or any song with big, long bass tones like that). you don't have to move the pitch far at all, in fact anywhere other than at 0 and you hear it chop it up.

the test was pushing the pitch very far, sure, but it's still proof that serato has the worst algorithm on the market.
Proto J 8:35 AM - 20 April, 2010
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lol I try to remind them about key lock before every version
here's the link to the test: www.djtechtools.com


thanx for posting that, that is the test i was referring to.
blackavenger 6:29 PM - 20 April, 2010
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I couldn't do this until 2.0: twitpic.com


woa..i haven't Dl'd 2.0 (i'm running 1.9.0) but is there a vertical waveform option?! or did it go horizontal now and thats it!?...not gonna lie...i really like the vertical running waveform style. I just got a new macbook pro but haven't loaded serato yet, was planning on having everything up to date but the 'horizontal only' could act be a deal breaker for me. So am i gonna have to stay in the past??! or is this something u can change in 2.0

you can have both.


Not if you use three or more decks.
canicypher 6:37 PM - 20 April, 2010
^^ no problem there
DaBrain 7:10 PM - 20 April, 2010
2.0 is a cool release but a little bit sad for me..
Serato forces me to buy a midi controller (TRAKTOR) instead of enabling Dj-FX control from my TTM57SL.....and i was SO happy i don't have to carry more than 2 turntables and one giant bag on my back. My X1 is already on its way but i sure hope serato will make my mixer control EVERYTHING and help me throw the X1 away.
Also - Sampler still not saving my prefs but i can live with that.
djjoefresh 8:08 PM - 20 April, 2010
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2.0 is a cool release but a little bit sad for me..
Serato forces me to buy a midi controller (TRAKTOR) instead of enabling Dj-FX control from my TTM57SL.....and i was SO happy i don't have to carry more than 2 turntables and one giant bag on my back. My X1 is already on its way but i sure hope serato will make my mixer control EVERYTHING and help me throw the X1 away.
Also - Sampler still not saving my prefs but i can live with that.


I hear what you're saying, but what if Rane/Serato eventually updated the TTM57SL to include ALL of the effects in the DJ-FX that currently aren't in the mixer, that way you could use those effects via the mixer and not the DJ-FX?

Interesting that the sampler still isn't saving settings, I know 1.9.2 had that problem but I haven't noticed it in 2.0 yet, I'll check it out.
DaBrain 8:19 PM - 20 April, 2010
I use the Delay effect from the TTM57SL all the time...what i need right now is hp\lp filtering + delay together...which is very hard to do with only the TTM57 (but easy in the Pioneer 800 mixer, sadly this is the only pioneer 800 plus..)...if only i could route the P1 or P2 scroller to control the filter effect from the DJ-FX...It would become my dream mixer...

and yeah 1.9.2 didn't save prefs either...but it's 2 seconds of my life, it's nothing.....mega TTM57SL hardware tab is more important..
jprime 8:39 PM - 20 April, 2010
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I couldn't do this until 2.0: twitpic.com


Want!
Jim Ellis 8:39 PM - 20 April, 2010
I really like 2.0
DJBLISS89 10:55 PM - 20 April, 2010
theres still a slight delay when loading up a track on 2.0, if this problem was fixed I'd love 2.0
djdocfresh 2:49 PM - 21 April, 2010
come on man it's a free upgrade! me myself and I really like the new features,and if you are a traktor user you have to pay for the upgrade. and whos to say you won't be satisfied with traktors upgrade in which you came out of pocket for.
DJ K'B SMOOTH 9:38 AM - 3 August, 2010
ok I love my serato but when will they make an upgrade that allows you to let your effects tail out without having to use the rane or pioneer mixers. I have several mixers including a 57. I just dont like to use it all of the time. I have that and an sl1 box. I like to make my mix cds with other mixers just to stay on my game without the very nice faders. But my issue still is this. You cant tail out effects with other mixers. I have a stanton and two different vestax mixers. And Id like to use the effects fully without having to pull my 57 out all of the time. So when will serato make the necessary change for this issue. Id appreciate it if you guys can do that
djjoefresh 1:02 PM - 3 August, 2010
There's only so much you can do with effects on a regular mixer without an effects processor. DJ FX does a good job adding effects for DJs without the TTM57 or the Sixty-Eight, but it can only go so far.

btw 2.1 is dope
DJ Val-BKNY11203 9:21 PM - 4 August, 2010
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ok I love my serato but when will they make an upgrade that allows you to let your effects tail out without having to use the rane or pioneer mixers. I have several mixers including a 57. I just dont like to use it all of the time. I have that and an sl1 box. I like to make my mix cds with other mixers just to stay on my game without the very nice faders. But my issue still is this. You cant tail out effects with other mixers. I have a stanton and two different vestax mixers. And Id like to use the effects fully without having to pull my 57 out all of the time. So when will serato make the necessary change for this issue. Id appreciate it if you guys can do that


Go buy midi controller or EFX box. Sheesh
Laz219 1:53 AM - 5 August, 2010
Is it just me or do a lot of people not understand the difference between pre/post fader effects and where Scratch Lives audio interface sits in the signal chain?
djjoefresh 3:27 AM - 5 August, 2010
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Is it just me or do a lot of people not understand the difference between pre/post fader effects and where Scratch Lives audio interface sits in the signal chain?

+1
It's not just you.
dj_soo 1:49 AM - 6 August, 2010
there are a lot of people that don't actually understand how their gear works and yet need to complain when serato can't violate the laws of physics for them.
djdalite 3:22 AM - 6 August, 2010
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there are a lot of people that don't actually understand how their gear works and yet need to complain when serato can't violate the laws of physics for them.

so tru

its not to hard to figure out if they would just research a little
DJSHARK 3:26 AM - 6 August, 2010
All I'm going to say is this.The people at serato work damn hard to stay on top of the dvs dj game.All the updates are free to us loyal users.I will never bitch or complain about people working for free to keep on the top of my dj game.I like things about the new 2.0 and there are things I don't,you cant make everyone happy.I am just happy that the software progresses unlike my former torq which went up flames.
Warren T. 3:39 AM - 6 August, 2010
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All I'm going to say is this.The people at serato work damn hard to stay on top of the dvs dj game.All the updates are free to us loyal users.I will never bitch or complain about people working for free to keep on the top of my dj game.I like things about the new 2.0 and there are things I don't,you cant make everyone happy.I am just happy that the software progresses unlike my former torq which went up flames.


+1 on this.
When we bought Scratch Live, we bought what we paid for. Back then it was simple, 2 decks with no sampler and effects whatsoever. Serato have been slowly but surely upping their game and providing great functional freebies in their major updates, and with every new release it sickens me to see people posting 'oh but you still can't do this, they should release the Bridge like NOW etc etc'. Jeez just shut up and stop whining. Ensuring stability is Serato's pride in the game and for that to happen it takes time and rigorous testing and if you think you need MOAR effects and the Bridge to become a better DJ, you better go back to DJ 101 camp. Rant over.
thebuttonfreak 3:40 AM - 6 August, 2010
I hate the free update argument. That's their business model, so quit using it as a defense for everything.


Anyways....I love 2.0, but some of the effects are a bit weak.
Laz219 4:32 AM - 6 August, 2010
It's not being used as a defense, it's a perfectly valid point.
DJSHARK 7:34 AM - 6 August, 2010
I just thank the team for doing what they do.I think people should realize what an awesome company they are and not complain but give help full feedback and they do listen.
Dj-M.Bezzle 1:37 PM - 6 August, 2010
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You cant tail out effects with other mixers


what do you mean by tail out??
Wazo 2:34 PM - 6 August, 2010
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Is it just me or do a lot of people not understand the difference between pre/post fader effects and where Scratch Lives audio interface sits in the signal chain?


hey man, i was trying to understand the diff the other day and couldnt quite get it. explain to me please. i use a numark dxm06 and korg kp3 right now, and can use the effects very well, but dont really understand when people say pre and post fader.