metal zip tie????

where can I buy?

I really don't like that stand anymore. I've used it a lot without any zipties and it's fine. The weight of the lappy will hold it down.

Ive never used the zip ties and it works great.

^ +1

^ +2

Ive seen the video some guy made where hes punching his laptop while its on the stand.. Do I need to tighten up anything?

I do use the Zip tie and still have the original one that came with the stand. How much R U tightening the tie?

I also have never used the zip tie

Never used the ties and its totally fine, i know you can get velcro cable ties used for data cable which would be easier do do up/rip open.

I use a velco strip and it works great.

Yeah, velcro strap for piece of mind.

I use velcro cable ties....works fine and a pack of like 10 is only a few bucks at walmart

i use velcro too!! use it! it workS!

+ elentybillion for velcro. I think I used the ziptie once.

just buy re-usable zip ties

i have a box of like 40 of them and i've only used 2 and thats only cause i lost the first one

never used a zip tie but i do have am issue with that video of the guy punching the laptop...when he hits it the whole stand moves and ends up stabilizing itself. i usually have my mixer on top of the stand so if i were to do the same thing, it would tip over a lot easier. having said that, i havent had any problems with it because i wouldnt punch my laptop anyway

yeah I never use them and I have had ZERO issues....

actually it shook much more being on the bed then the stand actually would being on a stable surface...but as you said who punches there laptop anyway (other than for demonstration purposes lol)

I used a shoe string. It works great.

never use any ties and its been fine with me.

www.radioshack.com

duck tape. solves all of the problems of the world.

tie it with a shoelace

u can get those velcro wraps at home depot too

look at what those straps are supposed to do...keep it from tipping back...

try tipping it back with the laptop on top (or a heavy book)...

let me know what you get...

^^^^with and without the staps^^^^^

I used velcro last weekend for the 1st time (never use a ziptie) and im glad i did! the 3 ft stage i djed on was super wobbly, and the vecro saved my laptop that night for sure...

i never use the ziptie but i can see it helping for sure.

duck tape. solves all of the problems of the world.

In the army I had a piece of shit HUMMVV, one day on the Autobahn it just stopped working. My section SGT. grabbed a roll of duct tape got under the hood and within 20 minutes he had it running. Oh and those zip ties work wonders.

What do I think? I think it's laughable that 3+ years later this silly zip tie debate still rages on. www.scratchlive.net - And the answer today is same as it was back then: NO, a zip tie is NOT NEEDED. If it makes you feel better to use one, fine, by all means use it, but in all these years, traveling around he world, week after week, under countless setup scenarios gigging two Uberstands simultaneously (one for MacBook Pro, one for MIDI controller), not once have I ever had a single issue. It does precisely what it was designed to do and does it perfectly, time, after time, after time. One piece, ridiculously simple setup/breakdown, ultra-compact, lightweight, durable, etc. It has it all (except height/tilt adjustment - two features I've never needed or missed having).

You're wrong!
The laptop was mainly slapped slide to slide in the video. If the stand's base is stationary(like under a coffin) and you push the stand from front to back without the zip tie, your laptop will fall backward. Yeah, like you said, it works fine without it...but it's better to be safe than sorry.
The zip tie makes it less prone to topple backwards.

I like the velcro strap idea... didn't think of that. My original zip tie broke, but I've been using daisy-chained ones from trashbags for a while.

lol, huh? Sounds like you're agreeing with me. Besides, it's an opinion based on 3+ years of real world usage, so how could I be "wrong"? lol (I had to read the sequence here three times, each time I lol'd)



BTW, just curious, I presume the front of the laptop/stand would be facing the DJ, right? So then why would the DJ be concerned about pushing his/her own laptop away from them (from front to back like you said) with enough force to counter the weight and knock it over? Seems counter productive.

I am saying you can use it without out it - but it's better if you use it. The zip tie is a safety mechanism - kinda a like a seat beat, you can drive for years without incident - but the one time someone bumps into ya, you'll be glad your wearing it.
I think that's why the manufacture included the tie. You wouldn't want someone to follow your recommendation and not secure the base - and come to you for reimbursement when their laptops topple right.




Some people dj with there laptops on the side. Another people are just clumsy. Or some dj's get tipsy. Sometimes girls want to come around your booth to dance or dance with ya...bump bump bump....
You can't seriously say the stand is topple proof because yours never tipped over...

No, of course not, and not once did I say it was "topple proof"... which is precisely why I said "If it makes you feel better to use one, fine, by all means use it". Only the end user can decide if they are clumsy enough, or if the environment in which they are working is uncontrolled/violent enough to warrant the use of a zip tie. And if you go back and read the thread that was linked from several years ago, you'll see that same recommendation echoed.

This convo is going in circles the same way the same one did years ago. lol

Ha, the majority of topics on the forum are circular repeat threads :)

You old posters should go away and let us rookies debate for a change... ;)

For some reason the fact that people are willing to debate this topic at all is highly entertaining to me.

I agree (and Im the vid maker)...Ive put 10 or 11 states and almost 2 years with the one stand...and I still feel some asinine reason to defend the lack of zip tie and the stand...lol

The thing of saying you might bump it backwards seems weird also...like you've never tried to bump it back 1st hand...Im thinking of revisiting that video with my tension meter...and do a side by side versus...but then I know science and proof never read arguments! LOL

^^^^read=WIN

yes please

Probably right about that one. No sense in letting experience and wisdom get in the way of a good debate.

lol

What vid?

Your video was great. You smacked it pretty hard and your laptop did not fall. My concern is that I put my mixer or mixer case on top of the bottom legs. So one tiny push and the laptop is going over. Thats why I fell like the ZIPTIE would help it from falling.

yeah I sit my turntale cases on it when I play...And in a situation like that I can see keeping from falling over from "extreme" force like you fall or are knocked into it with crazy power...but I bet the laptop would slide off then anyway....so I can see where youre coming from Djaward

^^^^ What video?

i use a shoe string and keep re-tying it everytime i move the stand haha

Black Science ....

Watchwww.youtube.com

^^^ gotchya, thanks. Thought maybe you were talking about this one s177.photobucket.com .

!!!!!!!!!!
I love Soulsonica's tips and what nots....THAT video was HILARIOUS!!!!

And shows you alot! lol

good post Black and im going over your thesis joint after lunch... looks dope...

LOL, that was a dope video

No sweat. Was just checking because I hadn't seen your video before that was referenced here in this thread and the one I posted under the "Soulsonica" account was actually mine (my old account's username was "Soulsonica" and my new one of course is Black Science). I had made another video years ago too showing myself battering the Uberstand trying to get people to understand that the ziptie wan't critical. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water and all that. lol

This was the video I was reffering to.. His smacks were some what tough. But notice how the stand is not being held on by something. Like I said before, I put my mixer and or mixer case on top of the bottom legs.

Watchwww.youtube.com

i've been using the uberstand since it came out and have never used the ziptie once. under normal operating conditions the stand will not tip over.

can the stand tip over...yes. someone would literally have to grab your laptop with the intent of knocking it down for the stand to tip over. or an earthquake or some shit. and if that was the case it could happen on that ugly ass l-stand (or any stand for that matter).

Stand does not need the zips I agree but I still use one of these to camp to my case., just in case somebody bumps my set up from the front..... www.leevalley.com easy to keep up with as I leave it in the create, clamps in a seconds funk zip ties.

This message has been approved by VDJ BIG