couldnt you have done a spotlight search and drag/drop over to a deck? sounds more like you are complaining about your own failure to manage your playlists.

yes i could of but i am mixing at the time.....

asking for a feature isnt complaining it would be complaining i would be saying things like 'serato ruined my mix ect'

i am just saying that is the only feature i actually need not just something i want ... mainly cause i own over 50,000 songs and there is no way i will remember to put each and everyone in a playlist

Someone please enlighten me, what's the benefit of building crates in serato compare to just have it shown in serato gui the way how you set up your music folder in your directoy like virtualdj, i think it would be way better to have it the way vdj does there music view. Serato should have it that once you point serato to your music directory, it shows up with all your crates and subcrates.. then when you scan it, the serato folder get save in the same music directory with all the track info. Now when you add new music to your directory all should have to do is press analyze and every new songs get analyze.

+1

@krall: in the meantime, what about making your own 'All' crate? Then drag the top-level music folder to this crate. It will insure Serato always knows about all songs in your folder structure, so you can still find by search, even if you haven't added a song to its "real" crate. And when you add new music, you just re-drag the top-level folder onto this 'All' crate and it will add all the new tracks and not mess with the existing ones.

This is actually how I import all my new music. It first gets dragged into my own 'All' crate and then from there I jump to the bottom to analyze all the new tracks in batch mode using the offline player. And then from there, I also drag things off into their proper crates.

I still wish there was a view to see all the crates a track is linked to, though. That way one could easily find all the tracks that are only in the 'All' bucket crate and sort them off into their proper crates.

CAW that works but still that is everyday i need to darg the 'all crate to serato and if i forget then i wont have those songs

i have been complaining about this for awhile. the last release was supposed to fix the problem. needless to say it did not. furthermore itch fails consistently build over views for files that have been added to the search database. very frustrating.

the beauty of the crate structure is you can make it any way you want with duplicate files all over the place... if it went by folders, you'd have to have duplicate copies all over the place.

it'd be nice to have both... or even to create a crate structure that mirrors the physical folder structure with one command.. and then be able to move stuff around and duplicate in the virtual world, the serato way with crates.

Man ive been asking for that since Day one i started with SSL/Itch.

+10000000 for me on that one!

I want to be able to see the tracks that I haven't added to a playlist separated from the rest!!

yes i agree with that too

i use crates as besacally seperating the tracks i want to play at a given time.... and then you should be able to see all your other tracks as 'storage'

Yeah like every other DJ Software, VDJ, Traktor even Ableton offers this.

You just click on search folder, choose either the main music folder as default and then all the rest underneath shows up and the best thing about that is that when ever you add music, folders or what ever is shows up.

NO Need to resync, re add or re create stupid crates makes our job alot faster. No need to sort and re sort constantly.

hell it sucks when you have 10000000s of song and have to make them all creates.. RANE WE NEED A FIX...

I know trust me it's a pain to recreate everything from scratch.

+1...Totally agree.

The search function is the one thing I really miss from VDJ...no need to switch to Finder/Explorer or spotlight to find a song in your HD that is not in a crate.

Or at least, make us able to do searches from within the ITCH "FILES" menu and make the results appear as mp3 tags ( as opposed to file names ), that way we can see the comments , artist and title fields...Bit rate field will be great too...you know, to spot those duplicate tracks which I want to get rid of the one with the lowest bit rate...That's the way I have been cleaning up my HD with VDJ...everytime I look up for a song and get duplicate tracks, I just get rid of the one that seems like the lowest sound quality from the bunch.

I'm 110% with you on this one as well....and hate to say it again.....but VDJ does that.

Don't get me wrong, I love ITCH and SSL...I just think it just makes sense to be able to explore your HD from within the software...I like to have ITCH on full screen...so switching back and forth to the Finder/Explorer is a pain.

I also use the crates as means of separating tracks that are a MUST or for a specific event such as a wedding's MUST PLAY SONGS.

and just to add as far as djing goes the files window is pointless....

unless it shows the bpm,key and such and can be sorted by those values

Totaly agree. i really hope the Mod's are seeing this.

+1
I couldn't have put it in better words....you nailed it !!!

FOR ITCH MODERATORS:
Could we have something like an online poll or similar on which you, ITCH developers, can list a few features that have been requested in these forums before and then each one of us ( by using our serial numbers as validation for a one-time-only vote) inputs which one of those is priority #1 and so on.

Then based on the results, you guys could prioritize your future developments and avoid wasting time working on features that most of us don't use...such as the "FILE" menu.

Just a thought.

^ +1

Or at least, make us able to do searches from within the ITCH "FILES" menu and make the results appear as mp3 tags ( as opposed to file names ), that way we can see the comments , artist and title fields...Bit rate field will be great too...you know, to spot those duplicate tracks which I want to get rid of the one with the lowest bit rate...That's the way I have been cleaning up my HD with VDJ...everytime I look up for a song and get duplicate tracks, I just get rid of the one that seems like the lowest sound quality from the bunch.

+1

+1

Just my 2 cents but,
I prefer to use itunes to sort my music. It consolidates all my files and I never run into this sorta problem.
Plus you can create playlists on an ipod when you're out and about so I don't feel there's a problem

Not all of us like iTunes (in fact some of us, like me, hate it) and not everyone has (or should have) an iPod to create playlists when we are out.

Yes I'm aware. That's why I stated that it was my preference.
It just happens to be a preference that works while yours, does not.

There is no debate on whether these things can be done through another software(s)...of course you can...but the main reason for this feature request is to avoid having to use another program outside ITCH to do simple things like searching tracks in our HDDs that have not been included in any crates.

Lobbo - I know. Just saying that for the time being it works pretty damn well

No prob...I know what you meant and I'm sure we're in the same page.

But I just pointed it out so others reading this can see the point of this discussion.

im using ITCH + itunes + Dupin and my playlist management has never been easier or faster.

Lol, you don't even know my method; unless ofcourse for you not using iTunes or iPod counts as a method too.
I am using scratchtools and it works just fine for me. The problem is I have to rely on external software and this is why I want native support from within ITCH.

Maybe its a feature of later revisions of iTunes, but are you saying that if you add a file to your your folder structure in windows\finder you don't need to drag it into iTunes for it to be recognized? otherwise I would think even if you are using iTunes you would run into the same problem....

Haha ;)

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Sorry, I was just laughing cause even I (the author of ST) would like to see an integration. However, ST never caused any issue for me and I am trying to make sure ST runs with every new SSL/Itch version.

IC, nice to know that you're the ST author. Great job mate. You have saved me countless hours so I own you a lot :P
Speaking of problems, the only one that ST are causing to me is the "improper/wrong" sorting when I use the -p option. I've read on your blog that you found the bug and fix it in an upcoming release... Any timeframes on this?

Haha, no worries, it has saved me counless hours of work as well. That was the initial motivation of writing that app. I started when I was sick of manually dragging and dropping folders, resetting columns, finding lost/move files - at a point where SSL did not have any of those features. Thankfully Serato added some of those features step by step.

Not sure which bug you are referring to, but feel free to shoot me a PM to elaborate ;)

I appreciate everything they do with features and upgrades, but the fact that basic reliable scanning and overview building is not 100% completely unacceptable. Has Serato addressed this problem or what? I have written bug reports and have seen that they claim to have "fixed" for a scanning problem in the 1.5 update, but it is not working properly. I scanned my mirrored hard drive with mixmeisterr this past weekend then did spot checks for songs I knew I had but could not find on my primary HD. Mixmiester helped me identify a ton. Furthermore, some tracks that are found in Itch are often not analyzed. I know there I workarounds, and I use them all the time. Bottom line we should be able to scan the ENTIRE HD in one drag and drop action and have every single files added to the search database, then with one click build every single overview with 100% reliability. Am I nuts (well at least my assessment of this situation). Whats happening with everyone else, but I am getting seriously frustrated over here.

I agree with all the complainers on here... honestly i've just switched over from PCDJ FX ... yeah the one from years ago... regardless, my HD is all jacked up from using a program that works with all files and levels of subfolders and its a nightmare trying to fix it all for ITCH. So while we are all frustrated, I may as well roll the dice and ask is it too much trouble to recognize .wma's? I have about 9,000 i'd love to not to convert.

www.jakeludington.com

I havent tested it out yet but did a google search "batch convert wma to mp3"

ive been wanting this also for a very long tyme. its (one) of the reasons i still use VDJ sometimes over itch

+1

+1

+10,000

im with you on this 100%

you know you can load tracks from the disk directly? so far i fail to see the actual issue

hey my fellow DJ's i have an question (dont we all) since im sick of making & re-making serato crates also everytyme i add new music to certain folders. well i really dont like itunes i just wanted to try something so after i installed itunes and made a bunch of folders & playlist. i was testing adding new music to certain folders & then after i opend up itch the new songs were there. well now thats a step forward. but back to my question since i dont want an cluttered up file system view (ya know all the way to left where it shows all your crates & folders) should i only have itunes folders like i have now (cluttered free) or add back in all my serato crates, then i'll have a long ass list of files folders ;-( will itch run better or makes no difference if i have no crates & just my itunes folders ? anyone just using itunes & not making any serato crates ?

if you don't mind the initial analyzing upon loading you can use it just fine with neither itunes nor crates. just load the tracks from your disk via files menu

for me I find itch runs smooth when am using my itunes crates, I have a lot of crates and it lags when ever i'm scrooling if am not using itunes

but bpm and such is not listed till you import so no way to just use thant to dj from

heh, what did you do before there were digital apps like itch? :-P

You could bring 100K titles to a gig and the turntables could handle them all without crashing....that's how it rolled before digital.

i brought crates of records that i could find easier than navagating my hard drive. but who cares itch is about digital djing not what i used to do.

matter of taste i guess. i haven't used playlists or crates for years

@Kraal

I see something in the Horizon.

: )

:)