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hahaha. just playing....

I guess they didn't because you can use different colors for different cues in the software.

+1

they coulda used color changing LEDS that would respond with the appropriate color.....that woulda been neat

Now that would've been neat...but tacky lol

Trevor,
Thanks for the info

one more question though,
since there are only 2 sets of cue/loop button rows, how is one gonna be able to differentiate which deck they are controlling?? assuming you will be able to control 4 decks with those 2 rows of buttons

The Cue Point buttons are dual color. Green, and red. They are green in normal use, and when the Delete button is pressed, they turn red. (When being used with SSL, of course)

Correction: They turn yellow, not red.

The Serato controls on the left side of the mixer control the left deck, and the Serato controls on the ride side of the mixer control the right deck. But what about the other two decks right? In the upper left hand corner of the mixer is a red button labeled Shift. Hit that one and it will switch to the secondary decks. If primary decks were 1 and 2, left side controls deck 1 and right side controls deck 2, now after you hit Shift the left side controls deck 3 and right side controls deck 4. Hitting shift again will get you back to primary decks, and so on.

the 68 doesnt have enough buttons. I want a mixer with a full keyboard.

and moniter

thanks for the info Trevor!

Also, you c an press the shift button on the mixer (upper left side) and while holding it, press the 2, 3, 4 or 5 cue button on the left strip and switch those 5 buttons into a user assignable bank of 5 buttons on each side. Now, you can assign cues from all 4 decks to 1 "scene" (of course there are only 10 buttons (5 on each side)) but you can have a few key cues from each deck assigned.
There are 4 banks of 10 buttons (shift + cues 2-5 on the left strip) you can assign to whatever you want. (like the 57)

what is the MSRP supposed to be on this thing?

hahahaha

been slightly confused>>>>>
n in case u have it stacked 1,2,3, 4 r from up n down...? just wondering

my question! When using Mixtape, if you dont use the crossfader at all,will it still split the tracks separately?

yes it will still give each of the tracks its own channel and then the main mixed channel

from what i gather think of loading a track into lets say the left deck as loading it into that deck AND a channel in ableton with 1 command

doing house sets i dont use the fader,doing hip hop sets the fader moves like a Vegas prostitute underwear!

I want bluetooth, availablity with the 68. so I can my new seinheiser wireless headfones. They look and sound great

wireless headphones!!
nice!

Now, what about the faders?

Are they all the wonderful Rane magnetic faders?

no! crossfader is rane, upfaders are not

What else can the LCD display show besides BPM, time and beat? Would love it to display the song title and artist. Can any of the buttons on the mixer be manually midi mapped to other SSL 2.0 functions? Like Cue and Play?

I want the Sixty Eight to be able to transform into a 2-channel mixer.

The 68 needs a rotary kit

i want mine to be able to transform into a giant robot capable of defeding me from evil giant transforming robots

Because adding extra LEDs would have made it $3,000.

you wouldnt have to add extra LEDs just use different ones than the ones currently being used

My Zero4 is LOADED w' LEDs.......it didn't cost $3,000

Then again, it's a Korg...haha

Dang, if we got this feature request earlier we might've been able to fit it into the SIXTY-EIGHT. I guess that will have to go on a feature wish list for future products...

what would yuo guys do without me.....i can just picture a giant transforming mixer that has a rane logo on the chest where the autobot symbol usually is

Except it wouldn't suck like Transformers 2 did. :)

im going to start referring to the 68 as the allspark

I want one!

TrevorW.
maybe u should start a thread askin what people want in the next rane mixer =]

but back on subject... when do we get to see a better quality video on this product ? explaining every single feature in detail!, i got a pocket full of dead presidents that want out for the right mixer!

trevor.. in ur opinion.. does the 68 have more volume gain then the pioneer djm 800?

the reason i ask is.. the ttm-57sl does not.

lol they did this thing is the bastard child of this board, all its missing is the CRUSH button

i had someone question me about sound quality not volummw level! As long as it sounds true, thats all that matters to me!

volume

why would you want a louder mixer that sounds not as good as a mixer that sounds lower in volume but sounds true?

and please dont say midi or efx(talking about djm800)

i know with rane.. sound quality is there. i just noticed with the pioneer it has more gain then the 57.. some gigs i play at.. thye let me bring in my 800, which is cool cuz it gives me better sound or more volume gain then the 57 does.. if that makes sense LOL

you want to be outputting 0db anyway........more gain than you need(0db) is bad.

the thing here is output, not individual gain.

when you turn the master volume to max on an 800, it puts out more volume than a 57


The question here is:
does the 68 have more output than the 57? if so, how does it compare to a djm 800?

i hope it as "unity gain" like the empath....as should all mixers in my book.

turn master to max and it only outputs(to pa system) the same as what your input to mixer channel is, which if you know what your doing should be about 0db (rms) in and hence 0db going out...

YOUR MIXER IS NOT AN AMP. It is ther to "mix" music and by putting out too much you just wreck the sound quality.

thankyou...

by the way. i have no hate towards pioneer.i just prefer rane mixers

good stuff to know..

Trevor,

This is good news regarding the re-assignable cue buttons as i can't stand "layers", but i'm still a little unclear on the scene thing, so let me ask a more specific question and see if it's possible:

if i were willing to forego some of the pre-mapped functions on the 68's controller strips (cue points etc), could i re-assign them for use as dedicated cue/transport buttons for decks 3/4?

There are 4 buttons above the 5 cue points, with a shared Delete and a load and shift button above those. So, we forego 4 of the cue points and use them to duplicate the functions of the cue/transport buttons above them, and use the "FlexFX" button above each channel as the "load" button for that channel, removing all ambiguity about what's getting loaded where and still leaving one cuepoint. And since it's really only 3 decks i'm after, that would leave the 5 cupoints on the right unmolested to be used either on one deck or distributed evenly among them. Doable?

Also, can i create "scenes" or "layouts" for the controller matrix that lets me use the default setup when on 2 decks, but lets me switch to the jury-rigged one on those (too rare) occasions when i'm spinning a real house party with a 3-deck setup?

One more thing which is a suggestion is that there be a shift key for each control strip, so when you're spinning on 3 decks, say, the left side can shift between decks 1/2 with the right one always deck3 and not getting shifted to deck4 whenever you wanna access deck 2 on the left side.

My MAIN request for future mixers, 68 or otherwise, is to fix that wacked xfader location on the right (totally non-ergonomic to have the channel strips/xfade on the right side of the mixer) and either put it and the channel strips in the center, or better yet on the left where it belongs, especially on large club mixers. i fell like Rane really gave short shrift to scratching on this one, a bummer for a "hybrid" dj who likes to sometimes scratch with house and breaks AND do seamless mixes. A simple relocation of the xfader would make it much closer to an "everyone's" mixer rather than being decidedly skewed toward dj's who don't use the xfader much - but even then, as with my 3-deck setup, it's a bit of a reach over to the left edge of that far-left deck while trying to keep one's right hand on that leftmost channel fader, since the whole shebang is shifted to the right. Effects are nice, but i think if they compete with the ergonomics (read: fader locations) then it's the effects controls that need to be shifted to accomodate proper fader location, not the other way around as seems to be the case with the 68.

That's the main thing holding me back from taking the plunge and looking at things like the Evo4 which are hella more ergonomic and dj-friendly but a nightmare to program, requiring an SL3, and no dual USB connex, which is a common-sense feature that any high-end DVS mixer should have, and probably will as DVS becomes more mainstreamed.

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Does anyone else change the cue colors? I definitely would hate having the suggested colors on the mixer, because I use the colors to represent things, and they're not always in the same order for me. For instance, if my cue 3 is purple, that's a note that cue 3 is a special cue (notes in the comments field). If it's orange, it means it's another good spot to start a blend.

Am I alone in this?

nah. i totally feel the same way. i dont know why wouldnt have the cue buttons set as certain colors. or put in led lights to switch up the colors

but we'll see if they do anything..

what xfader are you talking about?
The SIXTY EIGHTs XFader is CENTERED at the bottom of the mixer where most Xfaders are at... it is no more to the Right than it is to the Left... it is in the middle.
What "wacked xfader locatio on the right" are you talking about?

It's not *totally* on the right, but it's definitely right of center when simple geometry dictates that it should be either left of center or right in the middle at most.

it IS centered under the 4 line faders, but they themselves are skewed slightly to the right - look at a Pio or Ecler or Denon or any other 4-banger and you'll see the channelstrips and xfader tend to be just slightly left of center.. you don't want it on the extreme left or you'll create the same leverage problem in the opposite direction.

2-channel scrath mixers have it in absolute center (of mixer) because to make it "left" of center would basically entail adding needless width to the right side of the mixer, which would put the decks farther apart and having them close in is the holy grail of scratch setups, plus if you want the fader perfectly centered between the control edges of the two platters you could just move the right turntable over a bit, but they're both already so close it's not a big deal.

But, when you add more channels and the mixer gets necessarily wider and the decks farther apart, bringing the xfader closer to one deck starts to make you have to reach more for the other one, and that can throw off your balance. It's not that you can't adapt to it, but a mixer's there to accomodate you, not vice versa, especially when it's completely unnecessary and a design choice.

When i asked Rane about it, they said they scooted the fader group (the square insert containing the 4 verticals and the xfader and associated eq knobs) to the right to make room for the extra Mic channel and associated effects buttons. So all i'm saying is, fine, by all means have to Mics and effects for them, but place them on the right of the fader group - yes, Mics on the right is funky, but not as funky as a right-of-center fader group, IMO.. as always YMMV, but it's absolutely, positively right of center with all the ergonomic caveats that that entails.

here's the link to the pic of it, for your convenience: www.rane.com. What i'm saying is, take those 2 Mic strips that are to the left of the channel strips and put them on the right of them, scoot the channel strips into their place and voila, it's geometrically correct like every other mixer on the market.

i think that if u get the 68, u should get the white or yellow vinyl..

i like the look of coloured vinyl but i find it harder to see the grooves sometimes. haven't ever seen the Serato ones up close tho..

i'm waiting for the 69...

hahaha u wil be waiting a long time

There is precedent with the Empath, though, for them making a Hybrid to bridge the gap between the 56 and the MP44, and i think the 68's far enough removed from the 57 for there to be plenty of room for something in between. Took them awhile with the Empath and it may take them awhile with the Serato equiv, but it may come in due time to gather people like us back into the Rane fold who've passed on both the 57 and 68 for something Evo-ish.

what simple geometry dictates that? wouldn't left of center create an exact mirror image of the problem you have now? That makes NO sense.
I have actually spent a lot of time using this mixer and can tell you from a scratch and mix DJ's opinion, it's not as big of a problem as you may think it is. Wait till you can test it out and see for your self... maybe the picture is not doing it justice but it feels fine going to the right or left.

wiz... seeing how u have played around with this mixer,
im curious about the efx on it.
do they sound anything like the pio800 ?
is it better ?
does the mixer feel cheap to you ? (someone who played with it.. said it does)
does the knobs and sliders feel like a 57 ?

anything else u can add to what we as djs would ask about this ?

im so serious about picking this thing up, i just dont wanna be disappointed

and what about scrollin thru ur crates.. do they have a button for that on the mixer like the 57 ?

and why havent they put out a nice video about it >?? like pioneer always does..

at least they moved the main volume away from the booth monitor! wow
i been borrowing my buddies 57 for the last couple weeks(i use the 800) and ive turned down the main volume instead of the booth monitor LOL

nevermind about the loading/scrolling button. i see it now, i just dont know why they wouldnt put it at the bottom underneath cue point buttons. i think that would make a better spot(seeing how we use that feature often)

and they could have saved some room if they would have put the flexfx button with the filter knobs... could have had two in one(hopefully u get what i mean)

another thing they could have done is put a kill eq button with the eq knobs.. two in one..

they could have had more room to separate the gain control from the treble knob... thus preventing a mix up seeing how most djs use the bass/mid/treble knobs. most dj booths are dark..

the booth monitor knob should have been at the button.. instead of session 1 and 2

oh.. and the leds on the mixer dont match the outlook of 2.0 now too.

I really have to get into learning to use the loading/scrolling button. Just not sure it would work for me because I'm all over in my track selection. Do you use it for preplanned tracklists or all the time?

i dont... im not into a preplanned set, most traveling djs are. so it becomes very useful to them!

i would probally do stuff like that tho

any update on the release date?

still on time (April)?

Its just were getting close to April and would i'd like to know if its gonna be out at the start or end of the month (in UK)


Plus this website says May 27th????------

www.westenddj.co.uk

Wiz, the geometry that dictates it is one that gives an equal reach to both right and left arms relative to the left edge of each platter (what i've been calling the "control" edge since it's where you touch the record/platter); if one arm must reach farther than the other to touch the platter then there's a balance issue since you're weighting yourself differently, even if only slightly. now if platters turned counter-clockwise, it would be the opposite cuz then we'd be touching them on the right, shifting the pivot point right. you want that fader right in the middle of those 2 edges, not between the spindles and not in the absolute center of the mixer for minimum leaning and body movement, which can lead to actual footsteps if you're reaching for a 3rd deck with a line fader that's too far out of reach.

the only logical reason (rather than "compromise physics so we could beef up the MIC section") i can think of, is since it's primarily a "mixer's mixer", maybe they thought most 3-deck house dj's, with most people being right-handed, would put their 3rd deck on the right and shifting the whole faderbank to the right would make an easier reach to it. but again, since the control edge of the deck is on the left, any deck to the left of the mixer will be a farther reach than a corresponding one on the right, and the fader positions should reflect that.

i'm just not trying to hear "to make room for more bells and whistles!!" as the answer to the question of that fader placement. no-one can give me a logical (from a reach standpoint) reason why they placed it where they did. a good mixer starts with the faders and works outward, and it seems like they lined the edges of the 68 with effects and kept working inward til there were no effects left then shoehorned the faders in the remaining space rather than placing the faders then deciding how wide it needed to be to accomodate the effects without compromising that geometry.

That said, yes i will do a hands-on before dismissing it, but still, without a geometrically-
logical explanation of why the fader is *better* in that location rather than just "not TOO much of a hardship" or, "don't worry, it only hurts when you scream", it gives me cognitive dissonance and a "grrrrf" factor i might not be able to get past even if it's not a super-big deal. it's not that far right, i can deal, i just grimace everytime i look at the darn thing, and fear i always will, and i wanna be able to say, "ah, my faithful comrade in arms; how do i love thee, let me mix the ways!!", as i do with my ol' 2002x, the lovely 3-channel scratch mixer for which i promptly dumped my *fisrt* Rane mixer (an MP24) on first touch. So i dumped a world-class mixer with pristine sound quality for a 150-dollar tin can with shit where i needed it because layout is king. Yea, she's finicky, but it's easier to replace faders than reposition them!

given the sore lack of mixers for Serato i might just stick with Nana (my numark lol) for now and do my cueing with the keyboard. it's beginning to seem more convenient than dealing with all these cryptic controller setups. At least then you don't have to memorise this secret button combo that accesses the function you're staring right at on your screen. i know there's external controllers but multiple decks pose the same issues with them, and i don't wanna be lugging a string of boxes with me everywhere.

@Henry: "another thing they could have done is put a kill eq button with the eq knobs.. two in one..".

That is the most sensible, streamlined and intuitive idea i've heard in ages. That's the kinda thing that becomes industry-standard. Seriously, you should copyright that. Usually "streamlined" and "inuitive" don't mix (like "streamlined" control surfaces that you need shift keys to access half of), but this one's a winner! BRILLIANT!!

Btw, i *never*, *ever* pre-plan a set. i think that's lamer than a dead horse. might as well just record it at home and send 'em a cd! This is why i typically bring like 200 records for a 2-hr set, to leave every avenue open as to where to take things, where they're at when i come in, vibe etc. Even i don't know what's coming next til it drops. Yeah, it's iffy, no guarantees and i've crashed and burned a few times, but there's nothing as ecstatic as dancing to a dj who's fully surrendered to their muse. i often plan an entry point that i want to be an opening statement but will often have to manouvre a bit to get there and will sometimes have to blow it off in the moment, and also a general idea of what i wanna peak with and exit with but even those are up for grabs if the moment dictates. Nothing's certain but breath and faxes!

I agree. The crossfader should be placed in the middle. Relative to the edges of the mixer. I understand that it is centered in the middle of the fader board, but that one should also be centered. Might not be such a big issue, but as susan28 said... usability should dictate the layout, not the other way around.

You are certainly paying enough for them....that's for sure!!

I agree.

The crossfader is about an inch more to the right :/
For some, this might be a dealbreaker, like Susan28 and nik39.
For people who like a more "centered" feel on a layout, which I completely understand from a design point of view.
And other people might be able to deal with it by just "knowing" where they are on the crossfader by feeling it.

@Susan, ok, I see what you're sayin about the geometry. I still don't think it's that much of a deal breaker... I guess it also depends on you height or the hight set up of the equipment.. for me, it's not an extra step it's just shifting your weight a bit more to which ever side you are going to but nothing I ever noticed until now because of this thread and out of everyone I've seen use it... no one has noticed or mentioned it being weird. Maybe it will be for you but check it out when it drops and see.

@Henry I'm not sure how much I can say about certain things right now but I like the effects and how they have it set up. The XFader is the same as in the 57, the up faders don't "feel" as good at first but they are quality faders and after using them a bit it's fine.

There are knobs to scroll through (crates and songs) and load songs

I'm sure there will be videos.

As far as EQ kills, there are not kill switches but if you turn the EQ all the way left, it does KILL the frequency. I know this is not what you are looking for. I'm just sayin... if you really want to kill the Lows, Mids or Highs, you can... just with a turn instead of a push.
****NO NEED TO ARGUE THE POINT OF A KILL BUTTON VS TURNING THE KNOB**** I know why one is better than the other and the uses of both.

I don't know the release date but I know it won't be until both Hardware and Software are good to go. Neither Rane or Serato tend to release products that are not fully tested and can live up to each companies reputation of quality standards.

Again, Kool, it's not about not knowing where you're at on the fader - it's about knowing *precisely* where you're at and saying, "this is doable, but something feels a lil off".. your own answer captures my complaint perfectly: they might be able to "deal" with it.. but your fader location shouldn't be something you must "deal" with, it should *help* you.. you've already got *enough* to deal with and need all the help you can get, or at the very least no handicaps that put you behind before you even start.

Enferno "dealt with it" quite well, but if you gave him a choice i'll bet he'd locate it approximately as far left as it currently is right - not on the extreme left, but just a tad, or, if they *must* obsess on making the mixer look "symmetrical", in the center (and hey, who am i to complain about people being anal, lol..).

I aksed Seraato about this and they sorta got defensive, simply saying, "well we do extensive research with major dj's like Jazzy Jeff, and he didn't have any complaints".. which may be true, but as one of my fave club owners used to say: "if people don't like the music they don't complain to the club owner, they just don't come back" (after he was riding me about some set and i said "i haven't had any complaints"), and he was right. So the better question would be not whether or not he complained about the fader location but whether he *complimented* it and said, "wow, these ergonomics are DOPE" or whether he said "these effects are cool, the dual USB's are AWESOME and the faders are smooth" and just didn't comment on the location cuz he just didn't think it was a big deal. and it isn't, in paractice; it can be adapted to. i'll be able to reach it i'm sure, i'm more irked by the principle of the thing than anything else. it's a hurdle that just doesn't need to be and is how it is based on (what i view as) skewed priorities.

Look also at every major club mixer, including the world-standard Pio, but also the Eclers, Korgs and most others that have more than 2 channels, all to the left. and it's not cuz they think people would rather tweak effects with their right hand and so put them there, they put them there so the faders could be properly located. The Empath and my 2002x are hybrids with the fader in the middle, but they're skinny. even so, i'd prefer my fader a lil to the left. but to actually shift it to the right, especially on a wide mixer just seems a bit negligent and that's just not something i associate with Rane which is why you coulda scraped my jaw off the floor when i saw that fader, which is the *first* thing my eyes are drawn to on any mixer. everything is wrong if the fader's wrong.

Anyway i'm beginning to sound like a broken control record, so i'll go ahead and rest my case. i think we understand each other now and it's down to priorities and what one is willing to "deal with" on the shiny new 2700-buck mixer in order to use it.

LOL @ "broken control record"

Where did I say "...Deal with it" Where was that my answer? The only time I can see that I even used the word "Deal" as you seem to like to quote me as saying was when I said

well it's more of a philsophy than an opinion about a specific piece if kit, the piece in question simply exemplifies my point and inspired the comment (and honestly was just something i never expected to see on any performance mixer, ever) but yep, will do Wiz.

ps Wiz, you didn't say deal with it, Kool did, i was responding to him.

NO, NO, NO..... you "quoted" me as saying something and kept on putting quote marks around the word "deal" (as in "deal" with it)
so don't back pedal now... WHERE DID I SAY THAT AT... show us oh great one, master of a product you have only seen in pictures.
Where did I say it... or are you just making shit up?

lol sorry my bad. I hit send right before your post came up

's all good Wiz, don't blame you a bit for laying into me since it ws mostly you i'd been discussing it with. 'twas my bad for not addressing the comment to the person. bad form on my part, much apologies Sir..

all good, sry I over reacted

although seeing as you just created your profile a few days ago and seen to be so strongly against the Sixty-Eight, (which you haven't tried... even though world class DJ's have treid it and none of them see a problem with what you are saying) I can't help but wonder... who do you work for? Pioneer, Numark, Ecler.... it almost seems like you are in here trying to dismiss the mixer for some weird ulterior motive.

just sayin
=)

Agreed, but aint gonna happen on this one. positioning of faders is WAY too close together. The foundation is done. Needed to be thought out ahead of time.

Sheak, I didn't say that it is a dealbreaker, and I don't feel like it is a dealbreaker. It's just not perfect, and what's more important ... it's a regression compared to the 57, 56 and I think the Empath (haven't used it a lot).

On my 57: If it is dark in the club then I know exactly where the middle of the crossfader is. This is not so important when doing audio, because I have my crossfader at the sharpest setting so it is not so important whether the crossfader is exactly in the middle or a few milimeters to the left/right. But when doing Video... this is important otherwise some effects look very strange during the transition.

And susan28, I think you posted some good thoughts and explained them well. Nice one.

In regards to BIGWIZ's comment.. I don't have the feeling that susan is dismissing the mixer. IMHO it is good to speak about possible catches.

@Wiz: i understand completely. ya can't tell who people are on the net, i could totally be a shill for who-knows-who. the fact is i'd been waiting eagerly for this mixer and already have the cash set aside and everything, and really don't like any of the alternatives as they all entail external controllers and all kindsa headaches. so i prolly won't be running out and buying something else right away, i'll try the 68 and if i don't get it i'll prolly just stand pat with my 2002 and control via the keyboard until Rane (or whomever, but preferably Rane) makes a Serato mixer-controller that suits me, like a Serato Empath. Either that or go with dual HC1000's, but i'm still waiting for confirmation from either Serato or Denon that that's possible.

The reason i'm new to this forum is that i don't have any DVS gear yet, total newbie to it, and picked this year to jump onboard specifially because the 68 was coming out, and since i was putting alotta eggs in that one basket, that's what i came here to discuss, pretty much. But now that i'm here you'll see me around and trust can grow as it's earned, yes?

Who i am:

spinning on and off since 1985, started with goth/industrial to the danceable side under the name Susan Strange, evolved to techno and house from there (at which point i bought the MP24), was the original resident dj of the Maquerades in Tampa and Atlanta and also spun at Candide and Velvet there, moved to SF in 1992 (dropped the "strange") where i was heavily influenced by DJ Alfie from Dubtribe, who schooled me in the art of minimialist 3-deck house mixing, helped found the Your Sisters' House collective at that time, returned to Florida in 1995 where i was blown away by my new friends Kimi (dj Storm) and Eclipse, who were the first dj's i ever heard scratch to uptempo breaks and techno and showed me the power of that fusion (at which point i switched to the 2002x, but wished Rane made something comparable which they didn't at the time), and spun on and off with Kimi and co, my highest-profile gig ever being opening for George Morel at Liquid for the WMC in, i think, 2000. i can't scratch my way outta a paper bag but am in AWE of those who can and do aspire to be at least competent at it even though my thing will always be deep mixing, which is why i'm concenred with scratchability even though i don't currently need it when i play out. But at home it's like all i practice.

Since then have been caring for elderly parent and kinda fell outta the loop when vinyl started going away, hence my waiting on the Empath which i had planned to buy at some point upon seeing that Serato was the wave of the future (quickly chose Serato over the others not just for the lower latency but specifically *because* it's a Rane project, so, truly, i'm not anti-Rane, have never been a fan of any other brand, and have been trying to *replace* my old Numark with a Rane since i bought it, but so far the timing's just been off.

So to clear up any doubts: i think Rane is the finest gear made by man (and you can quote me on that!) have used it in the past and only reluctantly parted with it, and Serato, though i'm still in the research stage, from what i've been able to gather is the finest software, or at least the fastest, which is my top priority. So i guess one of the reasons i'm so bent is *because* this is not just a Rane, but the one i was waiting for to finally get on with Serato. Look at it this way: If it was any other brand i'd just blow it off and get a Rane!

So that's what you have here: experienced, multi-faceted, semi-renowned (in my circles) club/rave dj, have been flown around occasionally, wannabe scratcher, clueless about DVS but trying to catch up quick so i can get back on track before i fall any further behind.

That, and i do PR for Ecler on the side (j/k ;)

Pleased to make your acquaintence, Wiz - and you too everyone else (waving) - and sorry for the bad rub but you're right to be cautious.

lol.. nice
Good to meet you to... sorry for the misunderstanding.
I DO feel you on the whole it being better in middle thing but to be REALLY honest (a little embarrassingly so none the less)
The XFader position is so NOT an issue (for me anyway and yes, I DO prefer it be in the exact middle) that I didn't even realize it was off until you pointed it out... and I have been working with it since Dec.
So... that said, hopefully when you try it out, you can keep an open mind and see how it REALLY feels and not go in to it already not liking it because it really is a cool mixer and I wish I could talk a little bit more about it.

LOL Wiz, hope i didn't give you a flinch ;)

And i will check it out, and'll prolly walk out with one. prolly always good to have one *tiny* gripe with any mixer you own anyway, otherwise you end up keeping it *way* too long, as i tend to do :) another reason i'm so anal, i treat gear purchases like a freakin' marriage, then they get my karma all over 'em and i get all sentimental <3

here's a pro-68 point, relative to the competition: for anyone considering an Evo, you should know it's *not* USB 2.0. they claim it won't make a diff, but there it is, for anyone for whom that's important.

another thing that really jazzes me about the 68 is the dual USB's. talk about common sense and physics - how bout the geometry of crawling under some dj's feet and the physics of that POP going thru the system as you hotplug your computer into the box.

if i get the 68, i'll be offering it for use at any party i play, and might even get into doing sound for other parties since there won't be many of them floating around the warehouse circuit and it is SO the only way to do it..

What I don't understand is that the system requirements for the Sixty Eight State "Computer with USB 1 port supporting full Speed mode (USB 1.1)."

Does that mean the Sixty Eight is not USB 2.0?

Not really sure why the Evo 4 would need USB 2.0. It's not passing audio. Only Midi.

it IS usb 2.0-

www.rane.com

it's the Evo that's 1.0, 68 is 2.0 but backward compatible (hence the potentially misleading system requirement but that's minimum), and it's Ecler that said it didn't matter, not Rane. Rane said 2.0 is better for some of the advanced SL3/68 functions, which is why the 68 got it.

Running dual USB feeds and multiple computers might also be a factor, but i'm just guessing there.

Are you sure? That would surprise me due to added complexity required.

According to Matt from Serato, you can plug the SL3 into a 1.0 slot on your computer or mixer, but that 2.0 was ideal. i thought maybe it was a whole different plug but apparently not. Let me double-check on the 68, but 2.0 itself is backward-compatible you just don't reap the benefit with a 1.0 connect.

What I'm saying is that since the Evo 4 is only passing Midi then USB 2.0 would be overkill. I am sure it's necessary for the 68 given the amount of audio it's passing as well as commands.

@rebelguy:

i still don't get how Evo is only passing Midi when it's receiving audio from the computer? or do you mean that it doesn't pass Midi over audio channels simultaneously? i'm not saying it's not perfectly capable of easily supporting all its functions, but how can it not pass audio back from computer?

I don't think this is correct. Can you post the link to the thread were Matt gave you the information?

The SIXTY-EIGHT can connect to a USB 1.0 port, and you will be able to access it with the control panel, but streaming audio is not supported. USB 2.0 is required to use the mixer in the full functionality it was designed for.

Oh man, I can't wait to get in front of a 68, plug it into a USB 1.1 jack, activate the virtual deck in Serato 2.0, and truly test whether the limitation that Serato is putting on SL2.0 (won't let you activate virtual deck with an SL57 because it only has USB 1.1) is valid or not!

It wasn't in a thread it was in an email, but it seems to confirm what Trevor says, with less specifics. here it is verbatim (hope he doesn't mind me posting it?):

USB 2.0 ports can have a USB 1.1 device plugged in and will work fine, they are backwards compatible.

However if you had a USB 2.0 device, and tried to plug that into an old laptop or computer, it would only partly work, or maybe not at all... but you'd have to go back a way to get a laptop that old .

(end of email)

How is it passing audio? There is no soundcard in the Evo 4, only the Evo 5.

So using it on a USB 1.0 port is kinda useless, right?

Unless you're spinnin' analog and just need that USB port to adjust phono sensitivities or other mixer settings, yeah.

OK, i didn't know that, i was under the impression they both had them for some reason, although that would be moot anyway since you'd need an SL3.

So: what happens is the Evo4 sends analog control vinyl sound to SL3, SL3 communicates with laptop, sends converted audio back to Evo4, while both it and the SL3 are connected to the laptop via USB, with the Evo's USB line sending Midi and the SL3's handling the audio and Serato-specific commands?

Sorry, still very new at this but am a pretty quick study, just a lil confusion about the system architecture.

(And yeah, it does seem like the 68 needs that 2.0 connect, weird that they would even mention 1.0 under the circumstances).

You can change settings in the OS or BIOS to drop the speed down to 1.1 for testing. At least, that's what I plan to do. I'm pretty convinced (being a CS major and all) that it will work just fine with USB 1.1.

The audio requires hi-speed, which is not supported by USB1.1 (12Mb/s vs 480Mb/s).

I'm directly referring to the virtual deck feature. How is that any different than my current use of the SL57 and playing a track from the sampler right now? Isn't that playing 'audio' out thru a usb 1.1 connection which seems to work fine?

The TTM-57SL featured 8 channels of 16bit fixed-point streaming audio at 44kHz. The SIXTY-EIGHT features twenty-two channels of 32bit floating-point audio at 48kHz on each port.

Why is that? Can't you send the mp3 version via USB 1.1? That should save a lot of bandwidth :-D

*runs and hides*

The cross fader on this mixer will be used primarily for scratching, which, to those who know how to, don't need to look at where they are on the mixer, ever. And since you say you can't scratch your way out of a paper bag, it shouldn't worry you so much, since the channel faders are centered with the cross fader, your point is moot.
All of the blending will be done with the channel faders if using more than two channels.

I didn't say you had to deal with anything.
Don't take my words out of context.

lol

Requires a decompressor on the mixer side, however with the price of the 68, that wouldn't be a problem cost-wise. And decompression is fast compared to compression, so the CPU needed would be minimal as well.

I was joking.

This would be a horrible approach.

i didn't say it should be where i said it should be so one could *find* it, i said it needed to be there because that location provided superior leverage, and also clarified that this also pertained to the line faders' orientation and is especially relevant to use of a 3rd deck, which i *am* proficient at, and also that scratching was the main skill i lacked and wanted to develop, so even if it made no diff to blending (and i do use the xfader in blending when i wanna dramatically cut to the new track at the drop-in after blending awhile, it doesn't always have to be undetectable as long as it works) i'd still want a fader that caused me to need as little lateral body motion as possible with equal reach by both arms to their respective platter.

so yes, an accomplished scratcher could prolly scratch while hanging from the ceiling using bare wires they rub together, but doesn't mean that's the best setup, and i'd argue that the *less* skilled you are the *more* sensitive you would be to things being in less than ideal location. it's not about "locatability", it's just about location, period.

hopefully that clarifies my point.

i just put in an order today. i hope the sound efx are gonna be as good as pioneers 800. if not we got problems.

Uhh.. there's no built-in EFX is there? I thought it just remote controlled SL's efx panel?

There are six internal hardware effects in the SIXTY-EIGHT. You can find more information on the SIXTY-EIGHT at www.rane.com.

Damn, I was even at MBLV and I missed that. Then again, there was a line of ppl waiting to use the mixer so I never got on it.

noone has answered whether the efx are the same as the pioneer or better ?

i would like to know what djs had a hand in this too..
and is there any way i can be a part of the next mixer or design. im serious. not all the big time djs have the best ideas...

wooord!!!!!!!!! id like to be apart of the desing as well..

sorry, accidentally posted too soon..

(transport controls for each channel running parallel to that channel's eq's, kinda like the Zero4, or 2 rows on each side, like the 68 only no layering, and transform switches atop each channel fader and trims for all faders). effects if ya want 'em, but i'd rather save myself the clutter.

and if it works well commission a prototype with the popular effects thrown in (no expense spared on any function) for broader appeal (but no ergonomic compromise) and just put it out there for anyone who wanted to to produce and if they like it a simple thank you would do. i'm not territorial and would take great pleasure knowing i was helping other dj's leave frustration behind!

i can't help but notice how cheap it looks on the photos. i do not see the old quality.
my rotary empath is rock solid and built like a tank. but this thing looks like it's made by behringer!

was just thinking an interesting experiment would be to put like 5 of us from this forum in a room for a week and see if WE could agree on what the perfect mixer was, that might be instructional :) it would either give us new sympathy for Rane's plight or we'd come out with it!

see, put a buncha dj's in a room and see if they can AGREE on a design, because that one would prolly be the charm, as opposed to just getting alot of opinions, adding them up and dividing by fuck-all and coming out with fuck-all. i'm talking *consensus*, not majority rule.

any update on the release date?

still on time (April)?

Its just were getting close to April and would i'd like to know if its gonna be out at the start or end of the month (in UK)


Plus this website says May 27th????------

www.westenddj.co.uk

I can't believe Y'all didn't include a "delay"..........why? It's like the most basic effect on any mixer.....Y'all really dropped the ball there.

No delay does seem kinda weird. i'm not an effects whore but the one effect i'd use if i did - and the only one i really care to hear others using - is echo/delay. Saw a demo with a guy scratching with it once (he was using an X1 i think) and it was quite spectacular and totally tight, the waves of reverb were right on beat. The type of thing that inspires you to work hard and push your own envelope. But (as usual, hehe) i digresss..

You shouldn't place echo next to delay....they are VERY different....that's why I'm so bummed that it wasn't included. The more I think about the Sixty-Eight, the more I'm second guessing it.....and that sucks!

LOL... wouldn't happen.. unless 1 person had a lot of good ideas and the other 4 had no input at all and were just a bunch of "yes" men.

You may come up with something MAYBE.... but I guarentee you all 5 would not 100% agree. There would be A LOT of give and take and no matter what you put out there, some will love it and there will be others that think you missed the mark and will stand very firm that their opinions are better and more valid than yours.

You would DEFINITELY have a new sympathy for Rane's plight!

i hear that rane will not release the mixer untill 2.0 is final. so untill that comes. were waiting...

and fuck yes men. this thing better be worth it, the only thing that makes me happy is the fact that im getting it for cost. so if i dont like it.. i can throw it up on ebay for a profit

Very sorry, black, i stand corrected. i think i need to talk a lil less and listen a lil more around here for awhile, play the grasshopper role.. i've mad respect for all of you, man..

and yeah, it's kinda weird blowing bank on something you're less than utterly delighted with, but other than my original Rane MP24, which sounded great and fully met my needs at the time, my 1200's and my Ortofons, every purchase has been like election day: a choice of which things you're willing to give up to get other things, but any victories are always pyrrhic ones..

But even so, and with all the ragging we've all done, this box (imma name mine Ugly Betty if i get 'er) has a lot going for it. It does strike me as an interim product, though, and probably not the new club standard it seems to be intended as, but it's poised to be a Pio killer if it evolves properly. if i don't buy this one, i have a feeling i'll buy what comes next. And will even if i do get one. Yeah, i'm flirting with getting an Evo this time round, maybe, cuz the layout is so sweet, but it too is definitely a "missing link" sorta thing that needs to evolve. The whole scene seems to be in the birthing stage now so nothing's quite jelled yet, for anyone. Mfgr's seem to be just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.

(LOL@Wiz, yeah, might not make a good mixer but would make a fun reality show, hehe..)

@ Susan hahaha would be a Great and annoying reality show for sure.

@blackavenger how are Echo and Delay VERY different.. they are diff but I wouldn't say VERY... you can set a delay to act as an echo... they both repeat the initial source so that's not VERY diff. The diff would be in the decay and the number of repeats which you can change in a delay to act as an echo.

If you just want a delay, just learn to rock doubles.

and if you just want a echo, just learn to rock quadruples.

=)

LOL

I would pay to see that.

hahaha... I saw this whack mc in Canada one time tryin to work the crowd and he kept on echoing his own words like he had a echo effect on the mic but didn't... it was SOOOOOO whack but funny as hell.

I almost pissed on myself picture-ing that! That some funny ass shit...

i seen that before. very wack

whats funnier is i can see him walkin around his house by himself practicing

Sorry to be blunt, but FU%K that. I give madd props to the kats that can do that repeatedly through a set and make it sound good, but for me to do that all night whilst doing other shit....I don't think so! Naa, Rane screwed up royally when they excluded Delay....it's as simple as that!



Point taken. Though as you put it, it may not be "very" different, but it is still different. My current mixer has "echo", and "tape echo", and I can count on both hands how many times I've used the two of them in the 3 years I've owned it. Now, Delay on the other hand, I use quite frequently. So long as the effects are post fader, echo is sorta obsolete......I mean, you can achieve the same effect, using delay as an echo, but you can't use echo as a delay. Does that make sense? Whatever, I'm bummed the Sixty-Eight doesn't have it. I'm also bummed the Sixty-Eight's effects are on the left side of the mixer, as well as the fader section being slightly to the right. The Level Meters are tiny and short, the up faders are short, the fader section in general seems scrunched together. It's just that the more I look at the Sixty-Eight, the more cosmetic/design flaws I am beginning to notice. However, I more or less "need" the Sixty-Eight if I am going to retain the ability to record and use 3 decks at the same time. This sucks.........just release an EmpathSL, please.

isnt delay an effect in 2.0 anyway?

cant you just use an sl3?

you can assign up to six delays at a time on one channel with the DJ-FX to get your delay fill.

and Bezzle is right, Buy an SL3 if you want to rock three decks!

Come on guys, I've been using SSL for 5 years, I'm not that dense!

I've had the SL3 since it dropped. With the SL3, you have 3 INs & 3 OUTs. It's a trade-off whether to use the 3rd IN as a means to record, or as an input for the 3rd deck. With the Sixty-Eight, I'll be able to use an in for the CDJ, as well as having the ability to record. Also, up until 2.0Beta was released, I used the OUT of the SL3 to control the SP-6. With the Sixty-Eight, I would be given a dedicated channel for the SP-6, while still retaining record. As far as I/O functionality, the Sixty-Eight is a win/win for me. that's why I'm so bummed they missed the mark on the cosmetic/design front.....this mixer could have been "perfect" had they only put a little more thought into that side of things. If they built an EmpathSL, it would function the same as a 57SL, in that all the recording would be done internally, without need to actually wire it up. Though, I've been thinking of saying screw it, and buying the DJM-2000......hell, they are going to cost about the same amount of scratch (money), so why not.....that thing is fu%king amazing!!

How's that going to help me when I'm playing vinyl? it won't! I've already thought of how I would assign the DJ-FX to get around the exclusion whilst using ScratchLIVE. Naa, Rane makes it a point to boast how the effects are internal on the 57SL, and now the Sixty-Eight. They just screwed up.......why they thought a Delay wasn't that important is beyond me!?!

Hold Echo=Delay
68 has an internal Echo/Delay.
An Echo is the same as a Delay.
I just decays faster.
If you are playing vinyl on a 68, you can use the Echo as a delay with the wetness set all the way.
Problem solved!

you could try ripping the vinyl and then playing it in serato......kinda the reason you bought it right lol

It's not the same.

I stopped playing vinyl-rips years ago....they sound like shit!

???
You must be doing something wrong when recording them.

I knew someone would say that.....no, I'm not doing anything wrong......perhaps, you've just lost your ear for fidelity. Even the best "scene" rips from torrent groups, sound like shit, and they have thousands of dollars worth of kit to rip them. Even the highest quality vinyl-rip (.wav quality) pales in comparison to a 320CBR (transcoded from the original DAT). That's just a fact!! Why do you think we've been begging Serato for FLAC support for all these (6) years?.........fidelity! But this is all irrelevant........I just wish Rane would have given us a better suite of effects for the Sixty-Eight.

You know, with all this said, I am more than likely going to get the Sixty-Eight. I am just voicing my disappointment with their decisions for the final product. Am I not entitled to do so?

if i were you id just grab that new pioneer mixer instead and keep the SL3

or gat a external delay unit and run it through the flex ef loop on the 68

Ahhhh.....now that's an idea I hadn't thought of. Still though, shouldn't have to, but whatever.

thats right, u would think the 68 would offer up more efx than the pioneer. just to compete and or blow them out the water....

either way im gettin the 68 and then im done buying shit for my horrible dj habbit.

cant wait for all the support they are gonna have for this thing too.



come on serato... release 2.0 already! so i can scoop this, dont wanna be waiting till middle of april or may to get that ish!

uuuuggggh!

If you check out the Rane 68 preliminary manual here rane.com

Then it looks like you will be able to insert EFX via USB. So I don't think you need an SL3 (or something) to loop it via an analog FlexFX loop.

i dunno. u would think they would have put out a video. i mean look at pioneer, they have video for a mixer thats coming out in August LOL

pioneer likes making videos, look at that million dollar zambia epic they produced for the efx 1000, they sink a hundred grand for a damn youtube video, i hear they hired a new director for the sequal though, it may also involve robert downey Jr

LOL. im just saying... these videos that i watch... encourage me to buy stuff!

same here and yes you are, baby.. i agree with you 100% on all counts, my gripes are the same as yours and i too posted here just to chime in, fwiw and incase anyone in a position to influence things is listening. The layout is positively abysmal in the critical areas.. like Exene Cervenka of X said, "Everything is wrong if my fader's wrong!".. or was that her hair.. ah well, bad hair day, bad mixer day, equally unnerving :/ .. and worse yet when it was completely avoidable and was actually chosen by the designers to be this way. like they're from Backwards World or something..

in frustration i also looked at the DJM2000, but didn't see any dedicated control panel, just dual-purpose mixer controls. that would drive me bonkers and defeat my purpose for getting a mixer-controller, which was to have *dedicated* control of Serato functions and not have to deal with a big bowl of Button Spaghetti with Fader Sauce; that's why my second choice from the Sixty Eight is looking like the Evo4/Nuo4 since they at least has 4 dedicated midi knobs you can use for the basic transport stuff, but you don't get the luxuriant (though 2 short of 4) Serato panels like on the 68. It really is the only show going in that respect, which is what makes the design issues so frustrating, cuz where normally you'd just pass on it, now you just kinda hafta deal with it or do without some fairly major functionality, ease-of-use wise.

yep, str8-up fuckup, str8-up bummer, and we all str8-up gettin' one..

blackangel: sorry, just looked at the 2000 again, looks like it does have a dedicated controller area, my bad.. looks kinda like the 57 controls.

OK, i've been thinking about this, and the popular "well it's primarily a'i club/nstallation' mixer" argument for why Mic placement took priority over fader placement, but unless these "clubs/installations" aren't planning on having any dj's, it still doesn't make sense as the laws of physics and geometry don't evaporate the moment you set foot in a club - i've worked clubs all my life and have NEVER been confronted with such blatant hostility for dj ergonomics, even from the most ungainly rack-mount.

And then it hit me: There is One and only One situation where it would actually be *logical* to move *both line and xfaders out of their naturally-dictated position* on the faceplate to ensure the ideal placement of 2 Mic/effect channels on the left? There can be only one reasonable explanation:

The Sixty Eight is the world's highest-quality, most flexible and ergonomic KARAOKE MIXER.

It's the only explanation that makes a lick of sense.

Yawn...
That evo 4/Nuo 4cross fader is not in the middle either.

www.notape.net

www.evobyecler.com

It's actually more off center than the 68s.

You should just get the Ecler

You're still not getting what i'm saying Kool..

i'm saying the fader group (all of them, with the xfader centered below them) needs to be as close as possible to the centerpoint between the control edges (the place you touch the record, which is the left edge) of the two innermost decks (if you use more than 2), which is NOT in the center of the mixer, especially on a multi-channel mixer, it's as far left as possible (to adjust for the fact that you touch decks on the left, no matter which way the decks are turned) while still being able to have the xfader centered under them.

every single solitary other mixer on the market i've seen in my 25-year career, not just Ecler, has the line/xfaders aligned this way for a reason, or at worst in the center of the mixer, which is imperfect but better than to the right, which just defies logic. it's not about preference it's about common sense.

try this: draw 2 circles on a sheet of paper, then draw vertical lines coming down from the left edges of each of them. now draw a line between those uprights and locate the place on that line where the distance is equal between those two uprights and mark an X there. that's where your xfader belongs. now draw 4 vertical lines centered over that X. that's where your line faders go. now draw a square around those 4 lines and that X between the two circles. now note that if you draw diagonal lines (your arms) from that X to the left edge of each deck the reach will be perfectly equal, or close to it. try this same thing with that X either in the center of the square (mixer) or to the right of it, and you'll see the line to that left deck getting longer and more open-angled and the right line shorter and sharper-angled. this is what's happening to your arms/body when you mix on an un-balanced mixer. And again, the reason this doesn't apply to 2-chan scratch mixers is they're already as skinny as they can get so there's no room to shift the faders either way, BUT i have seen some scratch dj's move their right turntable slightly to the right to simulate a left-skewed fader set and equalise the reach to the 2 ledt edges of decks so they don't have to lean/move as much while in action.

now sign your name to it and congratulate yourself for the lovely 4-channel performance mixer you just designed.

then add in Serato control surfaces wherever else *besides* where those faders are that they'll fit and make the square as large as necessary to do so but no more.

then produce it with the same top-quality parts Rane uses and sell it to me. i'll give you 5 grand in a heartbeat.

The reason why some of us are so bent over this is we don't WANT Eclers, we want 4 (or even 3) channel Ranes with dedicated Serato controls and the 68 is the only show in town and it fails Mixer Geometry 101, which annoys those of us who know what mixer geometry is (which can be gleaned just by looking at the deck/fader horizontal ratio described above.

Sorry, this is a fail, and an embarrassing one at that. Can it be lived with? Yes. Are the fader locations Ideal? No. Could they easily have been made such? Yes. And that's the tragedy for us who value this, and a travesty of design - UNLESS it's aimed at Karaoke in which case it's spot-on. And since this is Rane we're talking about and must assume they're neither mathematically ignorant nor batshit crazy and have established a rep for *logical* designs, we can can only surmise that this was designed as a Serato singy-box.

ARE YOU REALLY MAKING THE FUCKIN BIG OF A DEAL OVER THIS SHIT. STFU!


sheesh.. dont buy it. wtf is wrong with you... i cant even read ur bullshit anymore. WTF!!

It has to be a beautifully perfectly symmetric piece of gear?...LOL I am getting two 68's...one for home studio an another for the road

::smacking forehead:: D'OH!! ("not *symmetric*, what i *meant* was... here let me retype it all yet again..."). lol..

no, i think the scrollbar will be sufficient! 3 times the charm, 4 times a waste of arm..

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WOW hahaha you act like the put the cross fader on the INSIDE of the mixer or underneath it where you can even get to it hahaha REALLY.... it's NOT a big deal. I have also been spinning for ever as has Jazzy jeff and others and NO ONE else had had this issue with it as you are having from just looking at pics of it. It's MAYBE 1 inch diff. And when you are on it... you really don't notice... I can't imagine that your arms are so short that the fader being 1 inch over will stop you from being able to rock the club or that that 1 inch will make you lose all your skill as a DJ... you are REALLY blowing this WAY out of proportion. I have rocked on WAAAAYYYY worse set ups and still did my thing.

i can see someone going on about the delay/echo thing.. but seriously.. placement is not that bad.

one thing i dont get about the rane 68 and what it gives you is...

i just read that u only get 2 control records with it ? why couldnt u get 4 seeing how it controls 4 decks ??


helloooooo. u guys advertise that u get four players.. shouldnt u get 4 control records? ok. since i put my order in.. i will be glad to accept 2 white control records.

rane... u can hit me up @ henrygq@gmail.com thnx :)

oops. never mind.. i read that wrong LOL. fml.

www.youtube.com

big wiz i would think u would post ur own video on the mixer.. come on hommie!

Nice video!

so...we do get 4?

yeah. 4 records. 4 cds

would be nice to get some special vinyl with this purchase

agreed

it says 2 of each on the Rane site though, where did you read 4?

rane.com

its somewhere on there..

rane.com

scroll down on the right under check list

says 2 of each

but hey, 2 USB cables....

not too shabby

hahaha yuh i guess. just cant wait to get my hands on this muthafukr!

haha... I didn't even realized Giz was filming me then.
I will. I don't think it's right now as there are still things being worked out with the Sixty-Eight before release so what ever I film... may be different on the actual release of the mixer so it's better to wait and make a film that is based on the actual release version in my opinion.

I will say that I love this mixer... of course as with anything, I think there is always room for improvement but this mixer has gotten me more excited about DJ'ing again then anything I can remember in a long time... and this along with the Bridge when it comes out...... MAN... I can't wait to see where cats take it then... especially Enferno (who will be performing his LRP at Rich's in Houston, TX Apr 1st 2010 (no April Fools))

Peace to Gizmo (Skratchworx) for the vid and my Germany Fam! See y'all soon. "Prost!"

Damn this mixer really winning me over ...that price tag though ...?

Watchwww.youtube.com

Watchwww.youtube.com

Great Demo Wiz ....

Thanks Anu

im in love.

and thats the waay u demo a new product! GREAT JOB WIZ!! u killed it homie... anythign else u wanna add to that video ?

haha thanks.. not right now.. I just flew back from Frankfurt and aint gonna do nothin but chill for a min.
The mixer really is that easy and user friendly though. That video wasn't even planned... the guy talked to me and wanted to get some footage so I had a few mins to work it in between other peoples performances... that wasn't even my laptop or music. This thing is a beast and a lot of fun.

thx... no backpedal ;) haha

yeah man, at the namm show i seen some videos of some chick tryin to show it, and she did a horrible job, i was very disappointed in why serato/rane would have someone who didnt know anything about it, try to even show it...

anyways.. it looks very impressive. hopefully it will eliminate all midi-controllers i have been using! =]

i own vsl, but prefer to use mix emergency for video.. so hopefully we will be able to control ME with the 68..

also.. wll u be able to use the cue point buttons for the loop rolls ?

this video got me more excited about havin this in my arsenal!!

Right now, (and this could change but I doubt it will) you can press the SHIFT button on the mixer and press channel strip buttons (cue buttons) 2-4 to switch to user defined groups so you could assign the 5 buttons on each side to diff loop roll lengths.

I got to test the 68 down in Miami this past week, and (to my dissapointment) the effects are NOT like the Pioneer 800 effects but more like the 600 effects. An example would be the simple echo effect. As soon as you shut the echo effect off, the echo ends (similar to the 600), now on the 800 and the 2000 when the echo is disengaged, it finishes the echo out. On top of that, the "depth" effect knob is on the bottom of the mixer, down by the headphone jack. Also, the display for the effects is waaay too small.

Other than these issues, the rest of the mixer is set up nice, and everything works like it should.

did u see the youtube video of wiz ? it didnt seem liek the echo ended

The echo will play out if you turn off the FLEXFX button per channel..... if you turn off the FLEXFX ON button on the over all FX section then yes, it will cut off the echo but that is not really the way it should be used... there is a button on each channel to activate the fx for a reason.
As far as the DEPTH knob, it is ACTUALLY on the top face of the mixer in the main FX section... the knob on the front of the mixer is the overall level... that's why it is labeled "FLEXFX MIX LEVEL" and the knob on the top (face) is labeled "LEVEL/\DEPTH"
So... there you go... problem(s) solved
=)

and the LCD screen is small but not too small.... it gives you the info you need and the backlight is adjustable now.

sweet

ALSO, the reason you can stop the FX from going to the master output by turning the FLEXFX ON button off is so that you can CUE the FX before you send them to the master output... which is very cool

Dammm im sold!!

i just hope i dont get the mixer on a friday or something. hopefully a monday. that way i can play with it for a few days before goin right in the club, u know i wont be able to resist bringing it to the club right away LOL

i just hope its out in a few days ;)...wish someone would let us know when they think itll be out in shops.

I can't wait...

for my SIXTY-EIGHT

i hear not till May guys. they still need to make 2.0 stable before they put the whole package together. sad. very sad. they wont release it till 2.0 is finished. and the of course depending who rane thinks is its most important clients will receive the first batch of these, i hear that orders are filling up so fast if u havent placed an order by now...u wont see the mixer till august or later.... my dealer has a strong connection with someone from rane, so we'll see.. im just keeping my fingers crossed that i will see mine sometime in april.

damm................

Is that worldwide or just the US?

a uk site saying early june-

www.westenddj.co.uk

want to pr-order but not sure who is gonna have it first and cheaper..other stores are saying £2200....

i would imagine world-wide. liek i said it depends on when serato gets done with 2.0

There is no delay on the release of the 68 (per the guys in Miami). SSL 2.0 is in RC3 and VSL 1.2 is in RC2. Both have been incredibly stable since Jan 2010. Wiz, thanks for clearing some of my concerns up, although you seem to know more than the guys who actually work at Rane/Serato.

im almost afraid to touch another version of 2.0 ever since the one made my library fucked up

Hey man, you're gonna get me in trouble. ;)

who... millz or wiz ? LOL

BIGWIZ,

Damn you, you have caused a future fight with my wife when the package arrives. I hope you are happy. Now I have to find shit to sell on EBAY.

i been selling shit on ebay lately. but just to de-clutter. i put some eons up there, a mpd26... my sl-1 soon.

haha... sorry
I know the feeling BELIEVE me... I've already had noise complaints from mine if it makes you feel any better.
I'm doing beta testing of wife/girlfriend complaints for the Sixty-Eight.
Testing price, sound levels and time taken away from them.
It's a tough life but hey.... I'm doing it for y'all.

haha.. na.. everybody at RANE (and SERATO) is great and plays their position extremely well!
It is a pleasure working with such great and talented people.

(and now back to our regularly scheduled program)
Rock on.

yeah.. make that video damnit

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just out of curiosity, what would you like to see covered in a video for the Sixty-Eight?

the efx. and how they sound. in better quality

but just a break down of everything, and hows it used..

altho that one video of u explaining alot helped. but it hards to hear..

It would nice to see a video made with audio coming from the mixer, including the mic(s)

thats what im sayin..

BIGWIZ. are those VSL functions you mentioned in the recent video your own mappings or will the SIXTY-EIGHT ship with pre-programmed VSL settings.

I have this huge gig 4 hours after mine shows up and I NEED TO KNOW NOW!!! Mods please stop everything your doing to answer MY question.

That last part was a joke by the way. Keep up the awesome job you are doing draining my bank accunt.

i just found out im getting mine this friday...

The white one? SIXTY-EIGHT LE

nah. but i guess im getting 2 white vinyl and 2 yellow for waiting so long

Dub, you got to check out the Sixty-Eight at NAMM.... what do you think about it and the quality of the FX compared to the Pioneer 800.
What did you think about the look and feel of the mixer?

if i can chime in...they sound really clean especially the echo and filters

Thx Ace

well compared to the efx 1000, i dont know about the 800 tho

no probs

i just wanna my grubby lil paws on this muthafukr

are u sure we are talking about the same mixer? (i love serato/rane) BUT imo, the effects sound very digital, and there are audible digital trails following every effect. I am not tryin to be a douche, but I am trying to lend a hand in letting the guys know what I feel is "wrong" with the effects.

all good. everyone has their own opinion. I've talked to cats who think it sounds better than the Pioneer and cats that think it's not as good.... things like how the effects sound really comes down to personal opinion... if it sounds like what you want it to, you'll love it... if not, you wont.
Like if 2 units have flange effects and one is a positive flange and the other is a negative flange, they are both flange effects but will sound very different. If you like the positive type you wont like the one with the negative type... it's all opinion.

i personally liek the efx of the numark cdx-01

my opinion on FX and how it relates to the SIX....EIGHT.


first my short answer.

I love them and I feel like it is a very good implementation into this mixer. I would rather have 6 effects that sound good than 10 that don't. Plus, like the 57...if the effects are not up to the users standards, the developers can replace them with a firmware upgrade. I'm not sure that is possible with the DJM line

My long answer:

I'm glad they don't sound like the Pioneer effects because those make me cringe. Sure, Pioneer has made it easy to use good sounding effects, but they have also made it easy to get a bunch of DJs to sound the same. Further more, I think a lot of effects are better used to produce than to perform with. I've seen people put amazing effects together with the EFX-1000, but is it practical to do that in a live setting?

I would much rather hear something that has been produced in a studio and mastered correctly than ridiculous chaining of effects over a basic track. At what point to do start disrespecting the original producer's desired sound? If you are going to spend all the time to use the effects, why not spend just a little more time to make sure they sound great to the audience. With the Rane, I know that sound quality is of utmost importance and to me that base layer is more important than the frosting on top.

Now, I had one of the first Kaoss pads that Korg shipped out and for a while I was so amazed with how many things I could do. But when the dust settled down there were about 5 or 6 effects that I could perform with comfortably out of 60. In the end it was pretty much just a delay unit on an effects send. I have the 57 now and I would say that I use the Echo in that to make up part of my "sound." I know that of all the effects, that is somewhat cliche, but the name is Dub Cowboy and to me the Echo allows me to "dub" anything. I just started using the flanger and phaser because of the VSL integration, but not too much.

As for the look and feel of the SIXTY-EIGHT, I admit I was taken off guard because I expected it too look like a 4 channel 57. But after talking with the good folks at Rane I understand why it looks different. The feel though is the same robustness that i have always experienced with Rane products, but this one feels more polished. The slick face and colored buttons really help with knowing what you are doing. The knobs feel better in the finger because you know where they are at when you first touch them as opposed to the mostly round symmetric knobs of the TTM5x and other Rane mixers.

I'll close this rambling thought (sorry I ate dinner in the middle of typing this) with reminding myself why I like ScratchLive over other DVS systems, and I think this concept is the biggest draw to the 68 for me. With SSL, it's about the music. Torq was the first DVS I gigged with and I was all about it for a while but a couple things kept falling short for me. One is that the search was painfully slow. I don't care how many effects are in there or midi this or sync that. My job is to mix music and if I can't find it I can't play it. The other thing is that no one else used it, so I missed out on a lot of collaboration opportunities.

With SSL I can have nights with 3-4 DJs going back to back and we all get down. Things flow from one to the next, just like they did when it was only 1200s and a mixer or two. The SIXTY-EIGHT embodies this with the double sound card. Its all about sharing and being able to flow from one mind to the next. I bet most people would be able to figure out the 68 just by getting to use one. Hell I worked my way around the whole thing i before I even read the manual. However the Pioneer, especially the 2000 is going to have some features that you will never master until you read the manual and have hours to practice on. Especially the touch screen do dads they added in there. Add to that the whole closed recordbox system and the barrier to entry is several thousand dollars. With the 68, it's an extension of a system that many 1000s of DJs are already familiar with.

long winded...but nicely said

thanks

oh and my SIXTY-EIGHT came with 2 sets of wax...
picasaweb.google.com

I like how they match the paint next to the software controls.

^Dick *Rub it in*

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............

dub, u actually have the 68? or your just fuckin with us? lol

sorry I don't take requests

curious are there gonna be rack mounts for a 19' for the 68?
also just wish there were Headphone option on the top. :(

lol

www.rane.com
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cool dub thanks.

now we still need a headphone attchment on the top of the mixer.

@dub
im seriously gonna beat you up if u been playing with my emotions... im down with the different color vinyl!

send us a video, even in private if u have the 68! with ur face in it LOL

btw people @ Rane, can u get one of the first mixers out to Synergy Sound Labs in Erie PA. ASAP!. or i will go fuckin nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sheesh im serioslyy losing it.

just fuckin around Henry. I'm in the same boat as you. But those recs are going to look bad ass next to the 6-8.

I'd be hollering at whoever you got that pre-order with and make sure you are number 1 on their cue.

where the did u get those records from !!!??

im in need of a mixer, i had to send away my pioneer 800. so im like good mixerless haha

do u know where i can scoop some yellow records at ?

i really do wish that the cue points on the mixer would be the same as ssl(the program)

like if u have one cue point that is red(in the program).. then on the mixer u should be able to indicate which button(by being red) it is to activate that cue. that would be super dope!!!!!!!

Right on Dub... a lot of good points. nice post

here are your yellows, good luck...cgi.ebay.com

insane

and now I fully understand the pain. I at least have a 57 and a Urei to hold me over.

I can't tell you where the records came from but I can show you more pics. picasaweb.google.com
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Fucka! Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

I gotta chime in for a sec. Two Technics - one on each side of a mixer either battle or standard are not symmetrical or geometrically centered (I guess we could argue semantics but every dj knows what I mean when you compare tone are distance to the mixer). A scratch dj will scratch with his/her right (vinyl) hand closer to the mixer than his/her left (vinyl) hand. With a mix dj the left hand pitch will be closer to center than the right. As a DJ, nothing in our world from control surface to monitor placement to headphone cueing is symmetrical or geometrically balanced. Honestly I'm not asking from another diatribe from you Susan, I read your posts and you gotta let it go or you are going to drive yourself whacky. We work in an unbalanced and imperfect world as DJs and nothing personal but I have spent a lot of time with the 2002x at one of my old residencies and it is a massive turd - so whatever you decide, it will be superior to the Numark.

Meant to quote Susan

Great points, well said.
I wasn't even thinking about it untill your post but all week at Messe, I was showing the mixer and they had the secondary decks in front of the primary decks and I usually have all 4 in a row... I did what I had to do and made it work for me... that's what a good DJ does. I know that video only showed me on 2 of the decks but before that and through out the week I was mixing on al 4 decks at the same time and would later switch to 2 to just bug out and have fun.

I think the mixer is awsome as it is!!
except a headphone jack on top.

its just not relevant when u think about the positioning of the fader, what if ur turntable is set up up an inch away from the mixer, u wouldnt even notice it. u can always butt up ur turntable to the mixer...

and i agree all controls should be on top, i would rather agrue that point then the positioning of the the channel sliders and fader. blah i say ... blah!

what does it take to get the yellow vinyl anyways ?

i know.
i just dont wanna jhave to buy another coffin w/ a front opening.
now im gonna have to get my coffin custom modded *ahhh more $$$*

$300 + $$$$ on ebay

<----------hates coffins!

hopes, dreams, & aspirations
+hard work and dedication
and most importantly...kind Kiwis.

thats not what i meant buddy, i mean.. do u have to be some big time dj to get the yellow ? man, i can see the white blah blah blah djs get it. but fuck man... im dropping 2100 bucks on a mixer... gimme something besides fuckin black buahaha

black makes ur needles dirty quick too, for some reason the pick up more dust than any other color, clear seems to work best for me

hey hey hey!!! what do you have against black? lol

. the black ones always want the white ones LOL

next thing u knwo there will be half white.... half black vinyl... mmm sexy!

We call them snow bunnies around here!

henry you got the mixer for $2100. that sounds like a good deal

2106.00 plus whatever shipping will be. so add in another 30-60 bucks

sounds good to me. I'm deff going to pick it up! that's only a few gigs for me

is that the hook up deal just for you?

I gotta get out of this thread, I'm catching 68 fever....

gotta be, MAP price is $2599.

and the only answer is.........MORE COWBELL!!!

LOL

Watchwww.youtube.com

thats my deal. i dont think u will find anyone sellin it for that... p;lus with it being in high demand. good luck

folks got em on ebay for that..

works out at £1800 uk.

shops over here are quoting £2200...

£400 difference.... :(


looked into how much id get charged for importing and it would be about £360 so no point in doing that....

whats the deal if you fly over to usa and buy it?????...would you have to still pay duty on way home...(maybe loosing the box etc and talkin it on with hand luggage could make it look like you never actually bought it on holiday and took it with you from uk to jamm with usa mates ;)).....

I could fly over, have a few days shoppin in NY then come home with mixer for about same price as uk........godd dammm VAT and duty..

that could def work.

Watchwww.youtube.com

at these trade shows..
one thing i dont get.. and no offense to you Wiz.(cuz i dont know whats been asked of seratos djs)

is why i see in some of these videos. my guess is that these djs are here to show off the mixer? and scratch ? right.....?

why is it just a how good can i be beat mixing and scratching showcase...

why isnt any of these djs showing more of the visual effects of the vsl program or the transitons. or the cue points or the loop rolls? or even the loops? or more of the efx of the mixer..

i dunno. am just an asshole? or do i just not see the whole thing cuz i never been to one of these trade shows ? and just basing my opinion off a youtube video ?

i saw all kinds of VSL effect in that Eskei video. He was scratching through the 68 effects too.

and...did I see a video feed from his laptop? can anyone confirm that

yeah he did a little.. but i dunno how these trade shows work, so i have no idea whats asked of djs or people showing this stuff off..
eskei did good... i guess if i was asked to demo this product i would be using everything..

there isn't a whole lot of time for each set and there is a lot going on all around the place.

I know I was getting at Wiz to let loose at NAMM and most of time he had the responsibility of explaining the new features rather than playing a set.

Enferno had a set that was put together just for the show and Z-Trip just did his normal thing on a 57.

I know there is a high demand for videos, especially demonstrating the effects, but you gotta know that they are improving things daily with the 68, so it's pointless until the units ship. I would imagine there will be new firmware and software builds right until the day it ships.

I keep pouring through the manual, and I feel like I have a good grip on how things will work with this mixer. It's all I got until Mr. UPS brings that brown box.

the other thing is that this mixer does so much it would be hard to fit all the tricks into one set.

i guess ur right.. im also a business owner so i always stress the importance of demonstrating features of the item your selling.

so dub, where did u order from ?

myself. Part of my biz is selling DJ gear.

None taken. The thing is... a lot of these cats just don't get it. They don't realize the bottom line is the product and not how good they are personaly. Companies hire people with names and a rep because it means something but a lot of them approach it like.. hey, look how good I am as opposed to Hey, look how good this equipment is and what all it helps me do. In some cases... it works just to have a big name stand behind your product... Z-Trip for example... the fact that he uses Rane/Serato products is huge and just to have him there reenforces that in peoples mind. If there are a lot of people doing "performances", I try to switch it up and do more of a clinic on the product (like the 2 vids where I'm talking about and showing the features) and when I'm done, then sometimes I'll play around. (like the vid of me just scratching... that was me just having fun AFTER my real demo) So... with RANE/SERATO there is usually a good cross section of demos... artists doing their thing and artists explaining the equipment. I work closely with Rane and Serarto and feel like my role is more of a clinician there to educate people about the gear and create sales and confidence. Z-Trip had not even seen the Sixty-Eight so to have him talk about the product makes no sense but to have him there rocking Rane/Serato gear is great... people want to see Z-Trip be Z-Trip not talk about gear. Everybody has a role and usually knows how to play it (for the most part) You also don't see behind the scenes when people like Eskei83 are helping people on the side and talking to them and going over stuff with them 1 on 1. And YES, Cowboy, you DID see him use a live (vid) feed effect in his set. (it was a quartz file)

nice... from what i see in the youtube videos, i dont think ztrip is that good. but i guess i have to see him in person. his style seems a little old ? does that make sense ?

i guess when i see a dj i wanna be "wow'd"

thats soemthign that dj am did for me. every time i went to see him or seen his youtube videos. i was like wow.. i never thought of doing it that way... or holy shit i need to go practice.

but as far as the videos.. wiz what u say makes sense =]
scratchworx does an awesome job of unveiling new shit. and so does dj ty from agi

companies liek rane serato need to have videos that demostarte every feature of their prodcuts, they lack BIG TIME!

pioneer does a kick ass job, and maybe thats why they have excelled in this field so well...

henry..... DJ ty from agi is terrible to listen to!!! drives me nutz (no homo) I feel like he needs to lose about 40 to 50 pounds! I have never seen him cut, blend, demo the gear!

wiz gets down like a champ and explains the gear well! he carries his weight well! (no homo)

haha i hear ya, but at least people are trying. even tho ty doesnt know everything or explain everything... he does get some vids out.

I like Ty's videos. I saw him working at NAMM and he takes what he does seriously. He also consistantly hooks up great deals, which is his focus rather than showing off tricks.

Rane users don't need videos. We know our shizz.

i agree. that guy strives to make sure understand more about the product. u can wrong him for that.

well said dub...

AGI has consistently had the best prices for me. DJ TY is the guy who talked me into getting a 57 and out of getting a certain other product. He told me SSL would be better for what I was doing. He was absolutely right. I just hope he can hook a deal up in Oct when I have the money for the 68. I hear Rane is being tight on street price.

hey Wiz

can u control the sampler player thru the 68 ?

like with volume and such ?

You can route the sp-6 out one if the channels

yuh but how can u activate a player ? to play a drop or a sample ?

you could assign one of the banks of cue buttons to the sampler. Honestly I'll keep a midi controller for triggering those.

Dub's right.. you can assign them to play from the control strips on the side and assign the vol to a knob as well in a custom group

yeah... i was hoping to eliminate all midi controllers wheni got this..

Me too. I'm sure it can be done. I'll definitely be setting up a bank for the sampler on the cues. I thought about using one of the channels eqs for sampler pitch/cell volume.

yeah i wont use all 4 channels so im sure i can map soemthing out...

just cant wait to get this mixer already..

Me too. I'm sure it can be done. I'll definitely be setting up a bank for the sampler on the cues. I thought about using one of the channels eqs for sampler pitch/cell volume. MUST GET HANDS ON SIXTY-EIGHT!!!!! (droooooool)

Car posting fail

why is it taking soooooo long, cant they just say "hey.... u guys are the most desperate for these mixers, we'll send them to you first!"

henry....... homie!!! what happened to you? lol ;p

henry since ur a superstar dj they are goin to send u one 2morrw lol

They are. You didn't get the email?

;-)

hahaha dood if i was selling videos on YR i should get one for free =P

no one gets free oranges!

hahaha or tacos.

singin -


o where o where can my 68 beeee... o where..........

How are yellow CVs worth that much? I have a set, and four more sealed ones I got at a guitar center a couple years ago....

these yellows...???
Promo Only Yellows???

The Promo Onlys are the hardest to get...Plus are worth the most!!

i think you mean Gold's

Those now are worth alot because they are no longer being made

i got mine for free!!!

Thanks Serato :)

Nope, they're definitely yellow, because I got oranges and gold. I may have gotten these at TurntableLab too.... not sure. I got one of the 45s too. The first time I'm actually glad with impulse purchases.

IF they're worth this much I should throw them up on ebay and use the money towards a 68.

anybody get the new black ones?

Haha! :)

Questions on Rane Sixty-Eight mixer
1. When will it be released? Is it still the end of April?
2. Will ASIO low latency drivers be available at launch for it?
3. What are the Hot Cues buttons made out of?
4. When can we see some professional videos on it?
5. Why weren't magnetic Upfaders used?

3.Unicorn horns
4.After they're made

hope this helps
=)

Looks like someone just violated their non-disclosure agreement... :P

so.. trevor. u work down at Rane? like the plant or?

the plant...the 7 or 11 leaf'd one?

no male mJ

I'm sorry, I know the drill... I'll slay 2 dragons, sacrifice a forest gnome and face the lernaean hydra when I finish my taxes.

i dont think i can wait any longer for this mixer, im going insane.

maybe u shouldnt have paid for it 2 months be4 it was released lolz...u remind me of how i was with the cdj2000s...hopefully the 68s not a big let down like the 2000s were with me

yea i remember when u were excited about getting them. and yes..i agree, i hope its not a let down. but if i didnt pay for them a few weeks ago, i would have never gotten this mixer

Yah, I work at Rane, that's why I get the neat logo.
<-----
I'm a nerd working on the Sixty-Eight. And I'm doin my damndest to make sure this mixer doesn't let ya down. :)

fix the digital tail on the echoechoechoechoechoechoehfoehcoehcoehcohecohecoheofhehcoeoc ehocehcoehcoehcoechoehcecececcccccc

Now your talking!!!

lol. hilarious black_one

can i get a neat logo too?

I can't remember the Last time I read a thread of this size in it's entirety
But I truly appreciate all your opinions and thoughts

I usaually Never Ever buy equipment b4 it's out usually wait for atleast a year or two
but I think Im gonna splurge on this one and just close my eyes and pull the trigger

the Price is fair in my opinion and from all the info I've soaked up here
I think it will be my mixer of choice for the next 10 yrs Thanx everyone

you know if your unicorns are in any way connected to the magic trance unicorns pioneer uses you may be in for some serious copywrite violations

you could start by selling them out of the trunk of your car for half the listed price

Nope, it doesn't help WIZ.

Here we go again...

Questions on Rane Sixty-Eight mixer
1. When will it be released? Is it still the end of April?
2. Will ASIO low latency drivers be available at launch for it?
3. What are the Hot Cues buttons made out of? What type of plastic, rubber etc.

Can you use 1st USB to control Serato and the 2nd USB for ASIO (as a second sound card on the same computer)?

That's a Good 1 !!

I'd like to know the answer to that also

yup, me too

yes. i would liek to kow that as well :)

Watchwww.youtube.com

come on serato. will u please get the software over to rane so they can finally get the mixer to us.

anyone seen a 68 yet >?

bit.ly < click

LOL

so wiz

when they do updates to the mixer do u get them too ?

I'm sure he is getting new builds daily. At the NAMM show they were busting new versions as it was happening.

I friggin can't wait for this mixer.

they were ?! wow thats nuts1

Be nice to get an update on here about release date too.

April's most of the way through and not even a peep.....

GUARANTEED by the end of April
























































2011.

May 17, 2010. The hardware is ready. But you have to remember that support for this mixer is not following Scratch Live version 1.9.2. It's following a major 2.0 update. This means more testing needs to be done.

I for one don't want a rushed product. But I sold my SL1 last month and I'm anxiously waiting to SPIN again. In the meantime, I will keep programming my DN-HC4500 controller for Traktor.

yeah. i have an sl1 and a sl3, i just put the sl3 on ebay. only because im getting the the rane 68..


so freakin cant wait for thing thing.

Or you can just give me your SL3 and i'll be your friend :)

no sorry i have enough friends.

The first shipments are out!!! A local cat sponsored by Rane just got his yesterday!

oh... :(

well.. hes sponsored by rane. so naturally hes gonna get his first...

im just talking regular population..

that doesn't necessarily mean that the first shipment is out
RELAAAAXXXX.... Easy.... soon come mon.

soon come mon ?

u mean more shipments are coming monday or ?

disgrace. whos ur boy ?

no shipments have came so how can there be more?
they are comming soon... not Monday

tuesday ?
wednesday ?

the end of the month is the 30th.

when it's ready folks. can't eat the cake until it's finished cooking.

raw cake is gross

mmm raw cake.

am i gonna see iron man 2 before i see the rane 68 ?

not if you hold out on seeing Iron Man 2 until you have a 68
;)

Henry is going to be humping that thing when he gets it.

thnx for breakin the news. now i dont like u no more

and i'll send u the video dub

actually, I plan on fondling the 6-8 pretty heavily too

haha... a 69 with the 68

if i just knew a date i would be fine.

I plan on getting kinky with both USBs at the SAME TIME!!!!

whaddya think bout that

Man u guys are bad influences... Reading about how hyped up u guys are makes me wanna pre-order one right now... Not a good look!

I've been talking myself down since they announced it... That urge is building again!!!

get it!!!!

I wish the 68 came with a lil plate #1 of the first batch and so on my friend
has an Mpc2500 he's got like #120 or something I'm always jelous when I see his
Mpc it's tricked out with all sorts of goodies.

I am hoping the FIRST batch comes with something xtra like special limited vinyl, shirt, usb flash drive?

me to i have ordered 3!

3!!! damn vegas

it should come with a honda civic . hahahahaha

lol !

I have two comming but threee damn! Vegas is crackin'

yeah.. i think were all goin a lil nuts waiting for this thing. im fuckin burning up waiting for this, its not easy for me to sit on 2 grand.. doing nothing

how come rane/serato have said nothing on forum if this is true then???????

sorry but im skeptical until i here it officially on here

I assume b/c 2.0.0 only supports the SL3..... there are "hardware" beta testers too, that you would never hear about on this forum. I'm not gonna go and spill the beans, but try searching twitter for some info/pics.... there are some 68s out there, which means they will be released soon!

I think you just did

lol i guess..... twitter isn't exactly private... and hinting to using Google is obvious at best ;)

fingers crossed.....Im already booked for a 3hr / 3 decks set at the end of july so need the 68 by mid june or so to get propa practice on it

Bloody hell, currently priced at around 4000CHF here, not much cheaper next door in Germany either (don't worry folks, thats pre orders only), that's around 3735 USD. They say the catalog price is 4990 CHF! (4660 USD)

I'd like one, but that's too steep for me just now, hopefully the price will come down once the release date is announced

@cyrus.. thats crazy!

Probably wont comedown for a while im mean you can see the xone 4D and 3D
as examples of that plus rane equipment in general doesn't lose is value as fast


my friend recently paid 1300 for a used rane rotary the 2 piece joint
and I think brand new arent they just about 2000?

I would say on the 68 buy it early might save you some cash in the future... maybe

maybe.

i bought the akai mpd26 for 199.00 new

trying to seel it on ebay. nope.. all im asking is 100 bucks, i cant even get that...
sold my sl3 for 560 plus 30 bucks to ship. that went easily..

Yeah Sl3 is WAYYY Over Priced! 699 ? F*ck that I wanted to switch for the improved
sound quality but I think 2.0 fixed it enough for me to be satisfied

and more Decks? What FOR!!

I think the choice is easy Sl1 + Korg Kontrol Or Sl3 ?

I pick Sl1+ Korg kontrol for about 10% of the Sl3 I just added 6 decks to my set
and I dont have to Lug around and setup another Deck or Cd player Big + in my book


Plus the extra controls on my Korg Kontrol I can use to assign things like cue points
or whatever just throw a whole set with sp6 if im lazy and I just wanna bring my computer and a controller

naaa 2 for the club i work at and one for me! we play on 4 tables every night :)

ahhh nice deal vegas, where u spin at ? i been thinking about heading to vegas..

if you ever need a special guess DJ holla! that is going to be nice!

i am using one for the studio (hooking up 4 1200 gld) and my apc 40 cant wait!!! I been practicing and learning ableton for the past two months

The other 68 is for mobile gigs or clubs that i have to bring my setup

damn dj ace makin some $$ in this game!!

the 68 is literally the only mixer that has everything i want in it

the 68 makes me dinner AND cleans my house

i was really hoping to see the 68 before the end of april. dont know if thats gonna happen :(

i do wonder how many have been pre sold?

I think May has already been officially stated

yup...to all the previous post

just work all the freaking time and "luck"

i meant to quote this post LOL...i am djing and on the serato forum LOL

just work all the freaking time and "luck"

dub, where did u see that there was an official release date ? and of may at that ?

That's How I beat Match ...

No wonder I still havent got my 68 ... Hmmm

yea i've gotten lucky myself. i stay pretty busy and have been moving up the payscale. all my extra $$ goes towards the debt i've built up though...if i didn't have that to deal with i'd be getting a 68 too

LOL

Watchwww.youtube.com

Yea Mike!

the mixer will be shipping in april.

hellooooooooooooooooooo LOL


wheres my mixer!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha

Mike.. send the first 68 to Synergy Sound Labs! LOL

in shipping maybe?
Now the big question is...... when is the mixer ARRIVING?

i wonder if Mike May is a DJ. haha

Mike is the Man!

I was going to say exactly that. MIke May, you are one cool dude.

I believe he goes by DJ Trainwreck

haha are you serious dub?

Yup

haha awe man, id like to see him play a set :)

yep dj trainwreck :) Mike is good people.

well i'd like to be mikes best friend right now LOL

The wait is over. The Rane Sixty-Eight is now shipping. Keep in mind that we have accumulated a lot of orders for the mixer since it was unveiled, so it may take some time before the the specific distributor that you ordered from receives the mixer. But we're busy bees over here cranking them out as fast as we can.

nice. now i just need to wait until open-box or b-stock deals pop up. then it's on!! lol

I doubt people are going to be returning them, so you may have to wait while.....

i still havent ordered one..;-(

@TrevorW, Send me one so I can test it out. I'll let you know if it works okay. Thanks.

P.S. I prefer UPS over fedex btw.

@TevorW i have one on order, and hopefully will see it soon!

and... when do we see the Sixt Eight General Discussion.

kind a like the ttm57sl ?

yeah i was told last week by a store theyll be in this week but only 4 to store......

just got off the phone with my dealer. might be seeing this thing this week. i just cant wait to play with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lets go rane 68!!!

Henry, you better posting videos every day.

I wanna bet $ on something...who wants to lose some?

yeah i'm sure you're right. i can wait though

maybe this week...

keeps fingers crossed.

I'll bet you either...
I get my Sixty-Eight before you.
OR
Pacquiao wins his next fight.
take you pick
=)

hmmmmmmmm

hahaha

should be a good fight. and u already have the mixer so whatever!

Wait a Min will the 68 be shipping with bridge plug included?

Just wondering that would really make the whole package complete

GREAT NEWS.....cant wait to play with this thing.

I haven't read such an announcement or statement.

Would be nice though

Who would want that?

bridge plug???

thought it was all done through the USB interface? and software internal routing between packages

henrys really feelin the excitment (no misquote

Im in the uk and i have been told i should be getting one of the first coming into UK and that it should be here by mid may........damm you Americans, getting the good stuff first ;)

2 wks or so.


HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

hahaha bezzle. ur amazing. for all the wrong reasons.

amazing is amazing none the less

amazing u responded so quickly! haha

but i guess when everyone puts u down u will take what u can LOL

everyone may put me down....but that means their ALLLLL takin about me :)

yeah i hear ya

look ill give it one more shot at getting you to understand the situatiion

nice. okie back to thread... threadwrecker.

updated manual:

get to reading boys and girls

included:
4 (four) control records.

Nice !

awsome $2500 for 4 control records :) LOL just another day in the life of dub cowboy

Post a vid dub if you got it Flaunt it ..


Bezzles Just Mad cuz his 2500 went up His Nose and not to his studio

Poor guy..

sadly I won't have my SIXTY-EIGHT before many

im not mad at all about that it was a hell of a weekend

No doubt !

I'm just jelous cuz I missed out

lmfao!!!!

This was me last weekend
Watchwww.youtube.com

hopefully i will be posting pics this thursday.

Damn! Your erection must be 2Inches Bigger *No Homo*

Lucky Mofo





You do mean pics of your 68 right?

no.. of my erection LOL

mishkanyc.com

Now that was funny!

nice! From times when party music was about having fun rather than just braggin how gangsta they are and dancing was more than just women jigglin everything

whats sad is i have that movie on my iphone RIGHT NOW!!! lol, i long for a return o a time when it wasnt too cool to dance and have fun. I hate how you go in most clubs now and its just a bunch of guys and girls standing around either posing or muggin at each other makin sure everyone in the party knows their too cool to be happy

wow serious ? my city loves to dance!

You Mean like this?

www.serato.com

thats dope. thats the most amount of black people i ever seen dancing to house music, but is is ...in chicago. everyone loves house music there(my brother lives there)

Yeah.. Black people hate dancing Now I think it's a racial stigma

Like ... You Know if your Black you can really dance.

So they quit doin it somewhere between farKahn and 2Pac

are u jokin or being serious ?

We don't dance, we just pull up the pants and do the roc-away....

konix is the lucky bastad as always!!! grrrrrrr

Watchwww.youtube.com

Watchwww.youtube.com

i was just about to post. that fucker LOL

Lucky konix!

I beat him when the 57 came out :P

he has small hands maybe not so lucky mmmm!

Thats what happens when you got mad video skillz have to be the first to post the help vid for the rest of us Knuckle heds

Fixed

i bet rane/serato gives konix a hook up for all the work he does on the vids....or at least i hope they do!

I think Konix should have his own serato avatar like company guys do

HAHAHAHA!!

i just got the tracking numbers today, im gonna have the 68 Tuesday may 5th. i told my dealwer i would pay for next day shipping... i guess he thought i could wait LOL

so i need links for the lowest price (yes i'm lazy and what!)

hahaha good lookin out!

ebay no tax!

r they on there already?

cgi.ebay.com

I'm hoping a mod will answer....... Is the 68 a 32 bit sound card? Will we be able to use it for daw's?

black one.. i might be able to get this for cheaper..

Pm me homie! (no homo)

u have aim ?

ezuap is mine. hit me up

no im......

what is ezuap?

my nick. how about ichat >?

That's the somewhat cool thing about just goin to your local shop for everything...... Something like this drops and they call you to let you know you can get it for 2399....or maybe he's just a good salesman....

i have skype

i dont... i have too much. if u want it cheap, get at me on aim..

yahoo or msn?

aim = AOL

Damn search the thread a lil better next time Hope this helps

www.serato.com




If that isn't studio grade I don't know what is> and who ever says it isn't
Doesn't know enough about audio IMO

yes aim aol instant messenger.

getting it now

Sorry if I misunderstood the question ancient Youth

I think it's general knowledge that you can use the sl1 as a sound card
so I believe same is probably true for sl3 and the rest of the
SL rane Product

Dunno for sure Because I only own the sl1 and I know you can use that as
a sound card Because I use mine with Live 8

Sorry didn't see the "load 460 more messages" tab, glad I didn't ......

Yeah no kidding good thing there's always some know it all Deuce around
to do the dirty work huh ?

*Chuckling*

Hey, DJ Koeul Benny. If you are going to insult someone by being derogatory, the least you could do is spell it correctly.

it's douche, not deuce.

Not that I ever need it, but is Firefox the only browser with spell check?

I'd rather not call myself a Douche But thanx for the spelling lesson anyhow

It's all good fun =D thanx black avenger

Oh, was were you making a reference toward yourself?....foolish me. I was just being a dick anyway....disregard!

So the million dollar question.... Will we be able to assign controls of ableton to the 68 when using the bridge?
Also will we be able to run 4 decks, the bridge, and video sl simultaneously?

DAaAMmmN thats Some question PPS are already havin trouble running sl2.0 and
Vsl together

As for ableton any long time User can tell you Ableton is really unstable ATM
Freezes crashes funny Playback not recognizing notes when they are too short

Although for me I couldn't use ableton anymore without the new improvements
so much easier to work with just save a lot when your working on a project


I think the big question is gonna be will Serato keep playing if ableton crashes?

although I'd love to know all the answers to your questions also Ancient