it is not a vci-300 :)

'Djs looking for a good controller may consider using this as a lower cost alternative to the vci-100/300 but keep in mind you certainly get what you pay for. The jog wheel, faders, buttons, knobs and plastic case all reflect the price and are certainly much more consumer quality than pro. '

'Vestax refined the concept of an all-in-one controller with the VCI-300 and now created Spin, an basic entry level version of both controllers with less expensive parts.'

I disagree. This statement below taken from that link tells it all.

QUOTE: "The jog wheel, faders, buttons, knobs and plastic case all reflect the price and are certainly much more consumer quality than pro."

Sure it is not a VCI-300... but at 1/3 of the price is a very appealing toy for casual "iTunes" DJs.

I think it's a great buy for a newbie however. But you need to own a Mac and that expense wouldn't make sense just to have this. For those who already own a Mac, yeh great, but it will sell even better when it covers both Mac and PC segments.

I think this is the demographic this producti is aimed to ---> losingcontext.com

;-)

actually i think it is great. lots of kids and college students go to mac store to get what have you... a dj kit on the shelf great. i mean i started my controller days with a total control. for the same price if this was available then i would of got that.

@djcerla where did you get that pic. that looks like the lecture hall where i give my digital art lectures at :)

Its a toy end of.....you wouldn't use this out in a club! (well i wouldn't anyway)

most people wouldnt use a totalcontrol at a club either but i did :)

Yeah... I see a great Christmas for Vestax. I'd buy shares, if only it was a public company.

yeah it's a toy, but I think it's enough for small parties or bars... at least. I'd like to test it.

it was a picture found on an article about the strong % of Mac in US colleges,

i wont go as far as saying i want one but this and djhero are two things that will help bring controller djing further into the mainstream

yeah that must be UC i mean that is the view i get when i do my lectures :)

You know what kraal?

For some reasons I feel like I want one too, and it makes no sense as I already own a VCI-300, a VCI-100 and a NS7. They've nailed it.

i am thinking i will show it to my step son tho. and if he really wants to get started with it then i would be happy to buy him one. even if he just makes car ride mixes and music to play before falling asleep mixes :)

Now that is funny.... ;-)

Cover art spinning in ITCH wouldn't be bad either...

um ... yes it would :)

you know it, this will rake it in at xmas!

no matter how good or bad it is!

I'm getting one for a back up to the NS7. I like the VCI-300 but it's just to expensive.
Plus it looks really slick. Just hope the platters are good.

vci 100 or vcm 100?

dj gilamonster ---if your ns7 goes down this is really what you want to use as you life line?
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Haha! I know what you mean Kraal:) I have the new Djay and its not that bad. I'm hoping that Spin can be used with other softwares as well. But as a hit play and leave solution when I step out to get a drink, mingle or go pee pee thats really what it will be used for. Not for the actual mixing and filling the dance floor if you know what I mean. I won't buy until I actually see it in person and play with it or scratchworx gives it a thumbs up. But hey for $250 it's worth a look at. NSFX must come first though lol.

honestly i may actually buy one for the kids to play with at the house... so if i do i will let you guys know what i think

Haha good excuse to spend $250 tell the wife it also cleans dishes:)

see i toss in it's for the kids and i get a free pass :)

I believe with the release of DJ Hero the DJ Controller is posed to become the next guitar.

Every kid is going to want to be a DJ now.

Of course music hunting and selection cant be taught in a game -but the technical skills will be learned at a fundamental level.

I do think the Vestax Spin will sell like hotcakes because it's really positioned against Numark's "Total Computer DJ In A Box". It's not truly Pro level but substantially superior to a "toy".

I think just like with guitars we will soon see a wide range of controllers at the entry level price point of under $300.

The Vestax Spin looks a little less like a toy than the Total Control -however it does appear to have a more limited functionality. Then again it is less expensive than than the TCDINA package.

This is an exciting looking entry level controller.

:-)

I want those platters on my vci-300... lets get a petition going to sell the platters separately. :)


Cerla, awesome pic.


this thing looks pretty cool... however, a little cheap. anyway, i hope this doesnt lead to established DJs losing gigs to kids with this equipment undercutting on price.

I think there are new platters for the VCI-300 built the same way www.virtualdj.com

sorry Dave, that was a VCI-100, I meant these ---> www.skratchworx.com

even cooler IMHO, and I think they're available as spare parts

i was told by vestax usa that they are not currently available.... only seen them coming soon in japan

I hope you guys remember this is not a pro grade device. Meaning it was not made for professional usage. The knobs, sliders and internal parts are not heavy duty enough to take a professional pounding.

i know that :) but the kid trying to take my spot djing doesn't and thats what i am counting on :)

kraal - This was not aimed at your comment, but more for those DJs who think they can use this in there business like it's a pro unit. If it does not have heavy duty parts then in my book it is a toy. I would tear this thing up even in my studio at home. The concept of this would have been awesome if this was an entry level bare-bones pro-grade piece of kit.

spaz i know you were not directing towards me but what you said just spark that thought in my head. but i know what you mean even just idly i wonder if i am putting too much strain on my vci-300 faders i couldn't imaging slaming the faders on the spin

its not a vci 100, and i thought the first ones were way cooler.

Thats funny I saw one 2 days ago in the Apple store in Sherway Gardens Toronto

Yeah definitely a 300.

I just realized you maybe talking about the platter Kraal......I meant the VCI-50 is at the Apple Store.....

I think it was something else.

www.synthtopia.com

yeah i meant the platter

Actually no it was the VCI-50, I actually saw it there first before seeing it on the net, and was very confused because I had never heard of it, then I came home and saw all the post's all over the net

There is no such thing as the VCI-50. I coined that in my article, but it doesn't exist.

My bad I thought that was the model number of the Vestax unit in the that actually comes in the Vestax Spin box, anyway with whatever its called I guess that particular store jumped the gun putting the Vestax Spin product on the shelves

I seen the Vestax Spin @ the Apple Store today and they were selling like hot cakes! $249
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Death of the vinyl DJ?

The Traditional turntable is all I have for me to bridge it back to the Tru school!

I don't think it's possible to use Spin's software with vci-300 or is it?

@kadillac : i have the impression that the crossfader moves automagically when you scratch?

@breakermixer, i have the same feeling when it comes to programming, before the .net era you had to have talent and knowledge to be able to produce efficient and reliable code, nowadays even my son who has no knowledge at all on how to program can build something that works...is he a programmer? not at all... he lacks the knowledge to be one...
same applies here imho, i'll never be as good as anyone here around, but thats fine be me cause i don't need to make a living out of it
bottom line, true talent will always survive :)
and i envy you guys :)

rubbish... the thing about technology and the information is simple. I can't remember the exact quote but there is a universal theory that states once on person achieves something anyone can. look at tony hawk and the 900. that trick was never done till he did it now it is a staple in a lot of skaters bag of tricks.

hi kraal,
imho there is more to dj-ing than just being technical, that's what i meant by talent, you gotta have the feel for it
and while i have a certain degree of feel for it :) i have seen things here that amazes me..
maybe i'm getting to old :)
and i'm enjoying it very much ...

marcA i understand what you are saying. but i have a different view point on 'talent' i make my living djing and art. mainly art. People say man i wish i had your talent when they look at my drawings and it reminds me of the story from a famous violinist. a young lady say him play and said ' i would give my life to play like you.' and the violinist responding saying 'lady i already have.'
talent is not something that just shows up you need to work at it and sacrafice a lot for it.

that being said i think the spin is a great tool to get new people in the field of djing. a way to see if this is what they want to devote to.

@kraal
sure, talent not cultivated is meaningless, plenty of examples :)
keep drawing :)

wow, that video. incredible.

HOLY SHEEET!!

1. The fastest/lightest hands I ever seen.
2. The best overall performance/creativity
3. Level of difficulty and margin for error is outrageous.
4. The total embodiment of Turntablism.


THAT is why I DJ.

wonder if the NS7 platter could make me spin like DJ David (I am 91 Kg)

Numark claims "high torque" after all! :D

yeah can't believe he's that heavy :)
at least one thing i beat him at lol

I am training and I weight 91 with no fat, 6pack is there despite the pizza :)

5 kg more and I will get paid as a security man too

I agree with MOST of the points in this thread but just want to add to the discussion...Djing back in the day used to be different which has been established already but what i think is important is to note the fact that during the 'old school' era of djing we used the tools we had at our disposal to the best of our abilities (technical) and using our creativity....now technology had come a long way but that rule still applies today

Sure it is easier to do a lot of the old school technics (no pun) but there a lot more NEW stuff to play with ex. Midi Controllers, Video Mixing, etc so the focus should not be on the equipment but HOW you use it!

Also back in the day everybody want to be a DJ (which is still true today) but only a small percentage of us where willing to put in time and had the passion and talent for it...so most of the dj's treated it as hobby or fad but some for some of us it became a part of us

ex basketball - many have played but very few great ones compared to number that have played the game - Kobe, Jordan

Skateboarding - same thing - Tony Hawk

Djing - same thing - DJ Ace (LOL)