Scratch LIVE Tips & Tricks

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How to "Screw & Chop"

so here it is....get 2 identical tracks, one playing on each deck...use your instant doubles feature to get the songs instantly in sync with each other...lets say the crossfader is to the left and the left deck is playing through the speakers....on the right deck, push the record forward lightly until the song on the right is playing exatly 1 beat ahead of the record on the left...im thinking in 4/4 time...if the right song is 1 beat ahead it should read like this while playing at the same time....

left 1234 1234 1234 1234
right 2341 2341 2341 2341

...once you got it lined up its time to chop...basically, you just throw the crossfader from the left deck to the right and then throw it right back to the left...

...what you want to try and do is catch the "next note"...remember that the song on the left is now 1 beat behind the song on the right...so when beat 4 is playing on the left, beat 1 of the very next line is already playing on the right deck...if on beat for you throw the fader from left to right, you will skip beat 4 and go straight to beat 1 of the next line...thats just a sneak preview of the next line...

**recap...we threw the fader from left to right and skipped beat 4 on the left deck and went to beat 1 of the next line on the right deck...

...now, on beat 2 on the right deck, throw the fader back over to the left deck, and you will bounc back to the same beat one you had just played on the right deck...thats basically it...

...this effect works great at the beginning of a verse...on snare drums....

if a song went....drum,drum,drum,snare...drum,drum,drum,snare...
a chop could make it go...drum,drum,snare,snare...

Jay-Z........99 problems
chopped......9-99 problems and a chop aint one, hit me

Thats the chop...the "screw" part, is nothing more than a tempo/pitch adjustment...some love it, some hate it...i usually go with like -12...love it...but the chopping is a cool effect either way...

aight...so yeah, holla back if you got questions...

www.yousendit.com

for the next 7 days here is an example of a classic snoop song that i screwed & chopped for those who like the audio too...
At 1:33 PM 1 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
i cant believe it was necessary to explain the oldest dj maneuver in the book! correction, before they even wrote the book! :)
At 11:52 PM 1 June 2006
I quickly checked your mix and I believe you actually delay the 2nd song an 1/8 note or half beat, not a whole beat behind. You can also beat juggle and crossover to the 2nd song 1 bar (4 beats) behind, and do some braking techniques.

I always thought of chopping and screwing as a way for beginner DJs to learn how to beat juggle, so that they have a little more time to rewind and mix the beat in. I think it may be played out now, even in the South.
At 4:21 AM 2 June 2006
D-Twizzle wrote
yup, i'm in houston, played out.
At 4:43 AM 2 June 2006
Jesus, get off you're high horses and leave the guy alone. What does it matter if it's a played out or brand technique he's just explaining it for anyone who dosn't know, thats afar more relevant contribution than half the people on this forum seem to make.

there's new guys coming to this all the time, sharing little tips and tricks etc... is helpful to them, and THATS whats it's all about, otherwise we may as well all sit at home and start covering our vinyl stickers again.

peace
At 6:44 AM 2 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
Nice tip. I just switched to SSL and i was wondering about that. I'm also from H-Town and it's not played out. Michael Watts is still holding it down OG ron c now Chopping up DVD's.

Already
LTizzzle
Camp Taji, Iraq
At 7:17 AM 2 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
thank you monk and tizzle...im from houston too and fuck what you heard...we still jam screw on a daily basis...and now my friends have me on the tables...we listen to albums that other people aint ever heard screwed up before...i sell cds that i make all the time...people request me to do special cd's for them...so its obviously not that played out

and yes i am offering probably easy simple tricks that only newbies can benefit from....but where else are newbies going to learn this stuff...i only been spinning for like a year now, and it took me a while to learn...there is no way any of you knew how to chop it up the very first day you ever touched a deck...

...anyways, its a lot of hating going on so im done with this post...

Monk & Tizzle...thanks again for the support...i thought thats what the forum was for...and maaaan hold up those dvd's go hard...
At 12:34 PM 2 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
Already... Yo Dub i'm trying to record my mix. What's the best way to go about it? I downloaded hardisk ogg and i can't get it to work right.

H-town stomp

LTizzzle
camp Taji, Iraq
At 4:41 PM 2 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
Yes, it is for beginners.....

BUT you can't play out a mixing technique.........

It's all how you rock it...........

the more you have in your arsenal, the better you are as a DJ overall......

I use it all the time in MIAMI and everywhere else I dj.....the people who are listening always love it............

most people don't really know what a dj is doing anyway, can't tell, aren't paying attnetion, and generally just don't give a F#$#.......
At 9:14 PM 2 June 2006
Dj Trails wrote
b list.
At 4:43 AM 3 June 2006
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At 5:56 AM 3 June 2006
keep posting tips and tricks. that's what this section is all about. yes, this is a very 'classic' technique but i have never seen anyone explain it in words so well. as we all know one man's played out is another man's fresh move. keep doing your thing.
At 10:23 PM 3 June 2006
ABM wrote
in all honesty, i still use "chopping", but more as a tansistion to something with more substance-never as the sole move of my repertoire as i hear many djs do. doing that one thing all nite is definitely lame.
At 4:59 AM 4 June 2006
true dat! no likes a one trick pony.
At 2:03 PM 4 June 2006
ABM wrote
This is not actually "screwing and chopping," which SHOULD BE only a computer editing technique. This is usually called "doing doubles."
At 2:12 AM 16 June 2006
Quote:
This is not actually "screwing and chopping," which SHOULD BE only a computer editing technique. This is usually called "doing doubles."


Wrong

en.wikipedia.org
At 8:16 AM 16 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
At 8:51 AM 16 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
ummm...i dont know about you, but i listen to screwed and chopped all the time from a lot of dj's...im pretty sure this is screwed and chopped....screwed and chopped is just a fancy name for slowing the tempo and lowering the pitch and doing doubles....

Dj Screw is the one who really started taking records and slowing them down and lowering the pitch...thats why its called Screwed instead of just being called lowering the pitch and the tempo...

a chop is just a fancy name for a double...especially when you double on a snare drum not and them tempo and pitch is slowed way down it does make a noise that resembles...chop, chop...

holla...
At 12:43 PM 16 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
it's screwing and chopping mate...and yes it is called screwing in homage to DJ Screws mixtapes.

It's the throey i used when i ddi my elements mix, but instead of using hip hop i slowed down 120 bpm House and added MC's to make 100bpm Hip Hop, one of the influences was the whole chopping and screwing style.

peace
At 12:58 PM 16 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
yo yo yo monk...id love to check out your elements mix...i did a cd like that too...accept i didnt change the bpm i just found songs that already had the same bpm...i could send you a copy if you want to send me a private message with an address...anyways...keep it pimpin...
At 7:13 PM 16 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
ah no worries mate, here you go..

www.interestingblends.com
At 4:00 PM 17 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
Quote:
it's screwing and chopping mate...and yes it is called screwing in homage to DJ Screws mixtapes.

It's the throey i used when i ddi my elements mix, but instead of using hip hop i slowed down 120 bpm House and added MC's to make 100bpm Hip Hop, one of the influences was the whole chopping and screwing style.

peace


This is wrong. Wikipedia is not the most reliable reference. All the tracks mentioned were probably done by computer. "Doing doubles" definitely pre-dates Screw. I'm a Hip-Hop DJ in the South. I know who screw was.
At 8:23 AM 18 June 2006
They're not called scallions, they're called green onions. Come on, call it whatever you want. They can call it sauerkraut in Houston if they want to.
At 7:19 PM 18 June 2006
Pete Moss wrote
Quote:
This is wrong. Wikipedia is not the most reliable reference. All the tracks mentioned were probably done by computer. "Doing doubles" definitely pre-dates Screw. I'm a Hip-Hop DJ in the South. I know who screw was.


Just because something can be DONE by computer dosen't mean it always was!

The BBC website also says exactly the same, and every websearch you do will point you in the direction of it originally being a DJ technique, yes maybe the tracks refrenced are studio remixes to give the screw and Chop technique but originally it's a DJ style thats been adapted to the studio.

As for it pre-dating Screw, don't think anyone is arguing that, i think it's more a point that he made it popular with his mixtapes and this style of muisc.....
At 10:55 PM 18 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
yeah, i dont remember it having a name before screw made it his main maneuver. we were doing it in the 80s for sure, just not slowing the entire mix down like he did. (im in houston also).
At 2:56 AM 20 June 2006
ummm....yeah....i still give all the props to screw on this one...no he didn't invent the technique...but he did use it well and made his own style around it...im from houston too so that helps...and when i screw and chop i use the turntables...not some computer program...only computer program is Serato...anything else is wack...but im not big on computers either...my computer is dedicated to Serato and this forum...hahaha...and burning cd's...
At 2:02 PM 20 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
yo Monk...how did you put together that link to where i could download your mix...id like to post the one i was referring to up so you and others can check it out if youd like...and i must say...nice job on the mix...big up...
At 2:04 PM 20 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
I remember in the late 80s listening to a few tapes i got from my cousins and thinking my walkman (cassette) was in need of new batteries. And I was told it was screw music even then. Weather or not he invented it, he is credited with popularizing it, which is often the case with seemingly experimental techniques. We used to watch in amazement as old park DJs would "flash" the breaks. Popularized by Grand Master Flash, but today its just a the foundation of beat juggling. Did he invent it, doubtful, but he did popularize it, to the point where it carried his name. (for a while)
At 2:07 PM 20 June 2006
Idlemind1999 wrote
Quote:
yo Monk...how did you put together that link to where i could download your mix...id like to post the one i was referring to up so you and others can check it out if youd like...and i must say...nice job on the mix...big up...


thats my own webspace mate, that i bought for my mixes, i'm supposed to be putitng together a Mixtape resource but i just don't seem to have the time.

you could use

www.megaupload.com or www.yousendit.com to just up the mix for a ltd, number of downloads... or upload it to one of those two send me the link and i can host it for a week or so for the guys ont his forum if you like, i don't mind.
At 2:46 PM 20 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
i can do yousendit.com...im really digging the elements mix...it has kept me jammin this morning at work...lol...thanks...ill definately post up my similar, yet different mix...eXstacy Cruise...its been my most popular mix cd so far...

aight Monk keep doin your thang...
At 6:21 PM 20 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
Monk-A,

What did you use to record your mix? It sounds great man. Make it do what do man..
At 5:52 AM 21 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
I used Acid Pro for the multitracking and Soundforge for any really heavy editing.
At 7:13 AM 21 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
Ok i just bought Pro tools M-powered along with the M-Audio FireWire Audiophile Computer Recording Interface
At 10:00 AM 21 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
then i think you'll have no problems, thinking of going down the protools route myself
At 10:56 AM 21 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
Yeah i was told that is the way to go. From what i've read it is suppose to be a do it all program. Matter of fact above this thread a guy suggests it. Nice mix man. I'm trying to get my BPM's right now. It's one big head ache.

Ltizzzle
camp taji, Iraq
At 1:27 PM 21 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
yo Monk A...here is my mixtape that is something like yours but a little different...hope you like...your element mix is the bizness...im digging it...

www.yousendit.com
At 4:18 AM 22 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
Quote:
Jesus, get off you're high horses and leave the guy alone. What does it matter if it's a played out or brand technique he's just explaining it for anyone who dosn't know, thats afar more relevant contribution than half the people on this forum seem to make.

there's new guys coming to this all the time, sharing little tips and tricks etc... is helpful to them, and THATS whats it's all about, otherwise we may as well all sit at home and start covering our vinyl stickers again.

peace


no doubt, I'm a beginner and I really appreciate the detailed explanation! I wish all tutorials broke it down like that. Some of us don't live in big cities where theres dj's everywhere to learn from. Thanks Dub$ack!
At 9:05 AM 23 June 2006
jizzer wrote
Whats crackin Jizzer...this is the first trick i wanted to learn when i bought my set up and i had nobody to show me either...it took me like 8 months to figure this shit out....glad i could help somebody...
At 12:36 PM 23 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
H-town in the house. Make it do what do Dub
At 3:52 PM 23 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
yes sir...yo, Jizzle & Tizzle...my nizzles...lol...just clownin...yo, im going to post up some more "examples" of chopped and screwed for you guys later on today...it will be the T.I. - King album chopped and screwed...i rearranged the track order...did some blends to transition from track to track and then i screwed and chopped the whole album...anyways...a little something to ride to...be on the look out...im will post it in this thread when i get home...
At 4:22 PM 23 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
bet. what are you using for software to edit and record everything?
At 4:52 PM 23 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
dawg...my bad...didn't we talk on myspace about cool edit???
At 6:16 PM 23 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
you dub and the gang. I just copped cool edit 2 and 2.1 off of limewire for the Free99 lol.


It's on now.
At 3:51 AM 24 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
Houston, TX representer here also...wat it do?

-Ryno

go cop the mixtape... 2for10.stores.yahoo.net
At 2:08 PM 24 June 2006
DJ Ryno wrote
bet. what you spining yo?


Ltizzzle

"Gripping Brain N da Turning Lane"
At 2:10 PM 24 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
Yo Ryno that's funny.. I just ordered that cd yesterday from Mixunit. That's where i get all my stuff from. It's helps me keep updated, since i'm in Iraq spining for the Troops.

That's what's hood man? If you don't mind me asking? What software did you use to make it. I'm teaching myself Cool-edit and Pro tools M powered7.1

"what it do"
At 2:13 PM 24 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
Quote:
I remember in the late 80s listening to a few tapes i got from my cousins and thinking my walkman (cassette) was in need of new batteries. And I was told it was screw music even then. Weather or not he invented it, he is credited with popularizing it, which is often the case with seemingly experimental techniques. We used to watch in amazement as old park DJs would "flash" the breaks. Popularized by Grand Master Flash, but today its just a the foundation of beat juggling. Did he invent it, doubtful, but he did popularize it, to the point where it carried his name. (for a while)


Uh, YEAH! He did invent it! He invented the use of back-spinning. Herc invented the use of "break-beats." Maybe Herc invented back-spinning, too. I forgot, but Herc laid the foundation, and Flash developed it.

Flash DEFINITELY invented the early "crossfader" and early, pre-transformer "cutting."
At 5:38 PM 24 June 2006
Yeah spot on Clark
At 6:46 PM 24 June 2006
Monk-A wrote
LTizzle..

Protools.. if you ever need anything, holla at me..the cop is appreciated..JAM OUT!...100

-Ryno
At 5:54 AM 25 June 2006
DJ Ryno wrote
Bet. I got the Protools 7.1 M-powered but i have to wait until my M-Audio M-Audio FireWire Audiophile Computer Recording Interface to get here. I'm working on putting together a Mixtape from over here in Iraq. Thanks for the help. Hit me at Ltizzzle@gmail.com. I have a couple questions on getting started. Do you do everything in Protools or did you use the tables and then cleaned it up in protools.

"Sidewayz"
At 6:41 AM 25 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
here is another example of some screwed & chopped....its T.I.'s new album King....

www.yousendit.com

Dj DubSack
Blazin Sacks 2 Blazin Tracks
At 2:33 PM 25 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
Quote:

Uh, YEAH! He did invent it! He invented the use of back-spinning. Herc invented the use of "break-beats." Maybe Herc invented back-spinning, too. I forgot, but Herc laid the foundation, and Flash developed it.

Flash DEFINITELY invented the early "crossfader" and early, pre-transformer "cutting."


True true.. I was just makin a point. Different folks hear and pass a story along differently. Back then, I didn't know Flash invented that. I just saw a bunch of guys in the park going to town. When I told everyone about it thats when the "heated discussions", if you will, started. But now we all know the deal hopefully...

Kinda like the debate over who invented the transformer vs. who put it on record first and all that. Or the even more perverse, "whos got the best cel phone coverage or car insurance..."

I'm glad theres a place to sort all these out..


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At 2:41 AM 26 June 2006
Idlemind1999 wrote
Defjamblaster,long time no see....Mixshow Power summit 01
At 5:21 AM 26 June 2006
Quote:
you dub and the gang. I just copped cool edit 2 and 2.1 off of limewire for the Free99 lol.

It's on now.

Great. Be proud of piracing software and shouting it out loud.
At 10:36 PM 26 June 2006
nik39 wrote
Quote:
you dub and the gang. I just copped cool edit 2 and 2.1 off of limewire for the Free99 lol.

It's on now.

Please do not post request to share files on this forum.

*This is your official warning. Next time you will be banned*

Have a nice day!
At 11:33 PM 26 June 2006
Shaun W wrote

Rane, Support
pirates can not be tollerated here. i can help thanks
At 12:10 AM 27 June 2006
Sorry. That wasn't my intent. If you would look at previous post i have made here u will know that. It will not happen again i assure you.
At 3:44 AM 27 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
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Whats crackin Jizzer...this is the first trick i wanted to learn when i bought my set up and i had nobody to show me either...it took me like 8 months to figure this shit out....glad i could help somebody...


i learned by listening and trying to imitate what i heard. never had anyone to show me anything, but it was kool that way. made me sharper...SO, thats my old school perspective, do it yourself without needing someone to show u! in 85, there was no one in houston to show anyone anything, we just figured it out. just don't wait, try to figure it out-that's hip hop. make it work for you. cant say whether or not i would have sought out someone to teach me stuff had they existed, but i know u can figure these things out if u try...
At 5:07 PM 27 June 2006
that was my whole point defjam...i did learn on my own...i kept trying differnt things and eventualy learned the delay and then figured out the chop...

...but then on the flipside...i dont mind sharing something that ive learned with others and this forum is that kind of plus so i thought id make a contribution...i figure you at least gotta have some skills and knowledge to follow my instrunctions so thats good enough for me...if you cant beat match and do delays and work the crossfader right then my instructions would be useless...

but i do feel ya...i have been learning everything the long hard way too...by myself in the bedroom...
At 6:04 PM 27 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
i remember me n tha crew back in tha day trying to reverse engineer tha windmill (or continuation).... then suddenly, our cousin Racheal busted out two loops... were were all 'dang!'...so does it help to have boobs?
At 6:06 PM 27 June 2006
Dj_Mike_coquilla... You are out control LMAO
At 1:55 AM 28 June 2006
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
damn...
At 3:24 AM 28 June 2006
word up, dub..
At 3:25 AM 28 June 2006
learning the hardway. 1986 in a basement in chicago, a pyramid mixer with VU meters and 2 belt drive gemini decks with layers and layers of wax paper for slipmats. some basic stanton needles. half a crate a records and a dream of rockin' parties. :-) taught myself tricks, blending, counting beats, recording, etc. but if someone wants to learn i am always willing to teach.
At 3:57 AM 28 June 2006
ABM wrote
word up, same here. i actually do clinics every blue moon...
At 7:15 AM 28 June 2006
damn...wax paper for slipmats...ABM getting down to the essentials...
At 12:30 PM 28 June 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
i used to cut wack album covers for mats
At 3:58 AM 29 June 2006
Quote:
learning the hardway. 1986 in a basement in chicago, a pyramid mixer with VU meters and 2 belt drive gemini decks with layers and layers of wax paper for slipmats. some basic stanton needles. half a crate a records and a dream of rockin' parties. :-) taught myself tricks, blending, counting beats, recording, etc. but if someone wants to learn i am always willing to teach.

What it do yall?
Try 1983 with 1 belt drive fisher, 1 realistic turntable with a drop spindle, and a radio shack mixer with know cross fader. I agree with learning alot yourself, but I've shared tricks with crew. The thing is if you don't have the capability you can't do it anyway. The only tricks I wouldn't share is something that I personally developed and wanted to save for a battle or whateva. Cool post yall
At 2:12 PM 29 June 2006
1RUF DJ wrote
Quote:
i used to cut wack album covers for mats


we used brown grocery bags
At 4:09 PM 29 June 2006
Idlemind1999 wrote
its not about not sharing, i teach people everything i know! i'll teach my tricks, knowing i can still do them better...its about not needing to be taught; being self sufficient and reverse engineering what u hear,thats what i was trying to say. now, if i woulda known of another dj in houston at that time, i woulda tried to learn from them. but, since that wasnt possible,i taught myself. NOW, i teach others based on what i taught myself. i think somepeople are made too lazy by how truly easy it is to dj now (technically). most will never understand what its like to have done it when there were no shortcuts; no faders, hamster switches, super pitch adjusts,special needles, special mixers,special turntables,bpm counters,how-to videos,cds,serato forums,dj classes,etc,etc....i champion the new technology, i love SSL,but i kinda feel sorry for those who didnt get the privelege of doing before we had all these conveniences.
At 6:49 PM 29 June 2006
Quote:
Quote:
This is not actually "screwing and chopping," which SHOULD BE only a computer editing technique. This is usually called "doing doubles."


Wrong

en.wikipedia.org


Isn't this just called "Beat Chasing" ie. Doing A Double Clap.
At 1:43 AM 1 August 2006
Trystan wrote
umm...im sure 100 people have a 100 different names for it...either way...whatever you want to call it...i like the trick so i thought id share...
At 4:05 AM 1 August 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
new dj here. This has helped thanks.

Any Dj's in the chicagoland area that want to teach a dj some skills???
At 3:41 AM 4 August 2006
Fiddy Nick wrote
whassup Fiddy Nick...glad the tip helped...yo, if you cant find a teacher...just practice and practice more...try new things...develop your own skills...its hard to find someone willing to teach you how to dj...at least where im at it is...
At 2:28 PM 7 August 2006
Dj Dub$ack wrote
fly out here.... tons of cats out here willing to help ya out.
At 4:54 PM 7 August 2006
Dj KaGeN wrote
just was looking for someone to have a scratch sesh with.. teach me a few.
At 5:58 AM 9 August 2006
Fiddy Nick wrote
Yo what up Blaster holla at me dude. I don't have your contacts.
At 12:40 AM 11 August 2006
Quote:
Yes, it is for beginners.....

BUT you can't play out a mixing technique.........

It's all how you rock it...........

the more you have in your arsenal, the better you are as a DJ overall......

I use it all the time in MIAMI and everywhere else I dj.....the people who are listening always love it............

most people don't really know what a dj is doing anyway, can't tell, aren't paying attnetion, and generally just don't give a F#$#.......


nah u CAN play out a mix mixing IS the oldest. All mixing is is.. mixing.. so simple. You guys always seem to think its just slowing a record and moving the fader... altho that IS more than mixing as mixing is just moving the fader to middle and back you don't have to think about lyrics and know them like screw and chop.



screw and chop is made from the 80's/90's its newer than anything else.



Quote:
i cant believe it was necessary to explain the oldest dj maneuver in the book! correction, before they even wrote the book! :)


get off the crack... mixing is the oldest.

Quote:
yup, i'm in houston, played out.


you must live in some rich white neighborhood that you call houston just b/c its on the outskirts. houston is the screwed up capital


and a final note.. mixing is for beginners.. that's why they are so many mix djs b/c its simple.. in fact you can use software todo it auto for you you don't even need a person now. There's no program and never will that auto screws and chops.. so again. mixing is for beginners.. screw and chop is for advanced =D
At 1:23 AM 10 October 2007
baalpeteor wrote
i guess im not 'hood' enuf to appreciate slowing a record down and moving the fader side to side. i DO apreciate DJ Screw developing new talent outta houston, but not the dj technique he's known for. now, jazzy jeff perfecting transforming-thats advanced!

btw, way to revive a dormant thread :)
At 3:00 AM 10 October 2007
Quote:
btw, way to revive a dormant thread :)


You ain't lyin!

I do chop and screw cds. I did Brandi Garcia's SS6...lol. I dont think it is advanced at all. I also don't think it's played out. Now people gettin on some cd players or computers and movin the fader left to right. NOW THAT SHYT IS PLAYED OUT!

Chopping and Screwing records is not that advanced to many DJs. Transforming is not that advanced to many DJs.....

NOW what IS advanced is being able to perform consistantly in radio, mixtape, and/or clubs while marketing/promoting yourself and booking your own gigs, while also breaking new talent!!!
At 10:49 AM 10 October 2007
DJ Ryno wrote
Ryno! What it dew bruh? ha ha ha.. Some subjects are just near and dear ya dig. If feel on self promoting. I'm in the desert here on Camp Taji doing just that. New myspace is WWW.myspace.com Screwed and chopped music will never be played. if you listen to some R&B records now you will hear most producers doing it. Hell mostly everyone is screwing the choruses of songs and or words, so it's not dead at all.
At 11:59 AM 10 October 2007
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
Awready! I'm good man. That's good to see you still in the mix. Yeah, folks are adding their own touch to it with the production tip, which is cool. I like creativity. So, anything new, that sounds good, I'm in to!
At 4:08 PM 10 October 2007
DJ Ryno wrote
Quote:
Now people gettin on some cd players or computers and movin the fader left to right. NOW THAT SHYT IS PLAYED OUT!

Transforming is not that advanced to many DJs.....



with or without computers, the process is the same, and its very basic...transforming made you have to do many things simultaneously, required precise hand control. it is advanced compared to anything that existed at the time of its inception. s&c never was considered advanced.
At 9:33 PM 10 October 2007
hell, i do it occasionally on-air to spice things up, its just not a big deal to me personally. it should never be something a DJ lists as a technique they use; its like saying that you (beat) mix-its assumed that you can do certain basic things if you call yourself a DJ.
At 9:35 PM 10 October 2007
Quote:
s&c never was considered advanced.

I agree. There is no skill involved in playing a 45rpm record at 33rpm.
At 9:43 PM 10 October 2007
nik39 wrote
you know what i hate..computer dj's like virtual dj and other dj software wich uses no hardware, that chopped and screwed and think they know how to do it even have a music myspace to show how they can chopped and screwed if you wana really know how to chopped and screwed music get 2 vinyl turntables and a mixer thats how you really chopped and screwed..
At 12:51 AM 15 October 2007
djchope wrote
word
At 4:00 AM 15 October 2007
Those who doubt.. listen to some OLD DJ Screw..
Good stuff.. there really is ALOT of stuff going on in there.

But it has to be the old stuff, and DJ Screw..
the rest have ruined it for everyone by overdoing EVERYTHING!

Check out : Something Good - DJ Screw/ 20-2 Life
You can get it from Itunes believe it or not.. this is classic screw on a classic beat.
At 1:48 PM 15 October 2007
KitK wrote
I agree, there is no skill involved in playing a 45 at 33 speed, but that's not what Screw did. Screw was a skilled DJ first. Then, he slowed it down. He could mix, transform, cut, etc. So, if you're a DJ who simply slows down a record and moves the fader from left to right, on the beats, then NO I don't think that is advanced, but some folks do. For ol buddy who started the thread to show the basis of what most people think is "screwed & chopped," I think that is cool. I know skilled radio/mixtape DJ's who still cant chop up a record on beat. So, to each his own on what is advanced or not, but that is cool for dude to take his time out to explain to those who may not know the process in which to go by.
At 7:44 PM 16 October 2007
DJ Ryno wrote
thanks...all i was trying to do is shed some light on how it is done...for the beginners since i was a beginner when i wrote this thread...lol...

on another note....it is a simple technique, but doing it in the key points in a song to make it sound great is not so simple...
At 6:35 PM 5 November 2007
Dj Dub$ack wrote
Whut it dew Dub?
At 6:11 AM 6 November 2007
DJ LTIZZZLE wrote
Done improperly, it sounds like a bunch of noise and junk...too many DJ's do too much stuff, gets in the way of things.
At 3:49 AM 12 November 2007
KitK wrote
LTizzle....whats good boi...man its been a long time....whats good....start hitting me up at...

dubsack@vt.edu

...i go to school at Virginia Tech now, I've been super busy but we are about to be on break....so hit me up....
At 2:46 PM 27 November 2007
Dj Dub$ack wrote
i just got threw all this to get on and say thanks wit the simple explaination
thats tite and one, yur right bout being able to listen to dj trix ...and figure em out your self tru
the faster you can lern all these the better
but at the same time if u can tell a rookie how its done like that
it saves dudes time=MONEY
this is a good page
At 5:37 AM 2 February 2008
DJ MEYHEM wrote
also if uy want to chopp and slow and hav only one record: u can pull back the record one beat and at the same time switch your crossfader the oppsite side of the turntable your using {so u dont hear the scrach} bring back the fader and hit the beat u pulled back and it still sounds dope but it wont be beat matched to any thing
At 12:29 AM 9 February 2008
DJ MEYHEM wrote
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also if uy want to chopp and slow and hav only one record: u can pull back the record one beat and at the same time switch your crossfader the oppsite side of the turntable your using {so u dont hear the scrach} bring back the fader and hit the beat u pulled back and it still sounds dope but it wont be beat matched to any thing


i wouldnt recommend that, because when you chop n screw music, you not only chop it up but you also bring it back plus i got serato so i dont need too buy to records :P
At 5:15 AM 10 February 2008
djchope wrote
R I P DJ Screw, Sadley only people from the South understand the influence of chopped and screwed music on hip hop.
At 6:44 PM 26 May 2008
DJavue wrote
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R I P DJ Screw, Sadley only people from the South understand the influence of chopped and screwed music on hip hop.


not really, i know some dj's that dig chopped n screwed music from other parts of the states even country's
At 3:16 AM 27 May 2008
djchope wrote
To whoever said defjamblaster doesn't know what he's talking about -- you're quite mistaken. I've been admiring his tight mixing on Houston radio and at parties for many years now. Hats off to you, sir.

That being said, I don't think any technique is bad in itself. It's all about using it tastefully as part of a cohesive whole. If you've got the gift of "owning" the music you play everything will work out fine, even if you can't spell "crossfader".

I don't understand why DJs are so snotty to each other in general. They're often worse than catty sorority girls or those washed-up 80's heavy metal guys who measure their manhood in notes-per-minute...maybe people think that's how authentic "hip-hop" people behave or something but it's still unnecessary -- even if it is what they did in 1980.

rs
At 4:09 PM 28 May 2008
ryansupak wrote
awwwready! I think any "trick" of ANY skill level is cool to "teach", even if most know it. I dig knowledge...gained or taught.. knowmtalmbout! 100... I STILL watch or listen to djs...I like knowing how they do stuff, even If its not the way I do it. Or learning new stuff....
At 3:39 AM 31 May 2008
DJ Ryno wrote
whats up DJ Ryno,ive herd some of u r stuff,i didint know you were an SSL user
At 4:53 AM 31 May 2008
djchope wrote
whats good mayne! yeah...i started usin final scratch RIGHT when it first came out...then.. got serato. I been on it since. It's the only way I could play whatever I wanted and still use turntables..

I appreciate you shoutin out to me..holla at me if you in houston...ill get you some of my latest projects....100
At 6:47 PM 7 June 2008
DJ Ryno wrote
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whats good mayne! yeah...i started usin final scratch RIGHT when it first came out...then.. got serato. I been on it since. It's the only way I could play whatever I wanted and still use turntables..

I appreciate you shoutin out to me..holla at me if you in houston...ill get you some of my latest projects....100


yeah man, right now im actually talking to a promotor in Houston (johnny j. i dont know if you have herd of him) for club roxy, im involved with a band that consist of a DJ and a drummer, were problably getting a gig there im also trying to spin there you know at the beggining when doors open since cool aid plays from 11-till it ends,so im out there trying to do my thing right now
At 6:27 AM 8 June 2008
djchope wrote
thats good mayne. good luck with all that. hope everything works out well for you...100...

also, whats ya bands name?
At 6:19 AM 10 June 2008
DJ Ryno wrote
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thats good mayne. good luck with all that. hope everything works out well for you...100...

also, whats ya bands name?

its called SIMPLE SUCCESS, the bands being in the scene for a while, but i bearly joined in. Its a DJ & drummer band (yeah it may seem hard to belive)

where do you spin around houston?
At 8:07 PM 10 June 2008
djchope wrote
come see us at Fitzgeralds (its in the heights) July 13, were going to be there for battle of the bands
At 8:08 PM 10 June 2008
djchope wrote
we kneeds +/- infinitee petch cuntwol for our's SSL for guuds sclroo & chope
At 3:55 AM 24 June 2008
Quote:
we kneeds +/- infinitee petch cuntwol for our's SSL for guuds sclroo & chope


Naw man, im good on that. Who the F'ing needs infinitee +/-
At 4:10 AM 24 June 2008
djchope wrote
we kneeds +/- infinitee petch cuntwol for our's SSL for guuds sclroo & chope
At 4:35 AM 24 June 2008
Quote:
we kneeds +/- infinitee petch cuntwol for our's SSL for guuds sclroo & chope


naw man, lol your trippin. you dont need infinitee pitch to screw n chop.
At 4:42 AM 24 June 2008
djchope wrote
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so here it is....get 2 identical tracks, one playing on each deck...use your instant doubles feature to get the songs instantly in sync with each other...lets say the crossfader is to the left and the left deck is playing through the speakers....on the right deck, push the record forward lightly until the song on the right is playing exatly 1 beat ahead of the record on the left...im thinking in 4/4 time...if the right song is 1 beat ahead it should read like this while playing at the same time....

left 1234 1234 1234 1234
right 2341 2341 2341 2341

...once you got it lined up its time to chop...basically, you just throw the crossfader from the left deck to the right and then throw it right back to the left...

...what you want to try and do is catch the "next note"...remember that the song on the left is now 1 beat behind the song on the right...so when beat 4 is playing on the left, beat 1 of the very next line is already playing on the right deck...if on beat for you throw the fader from left to right, you will skip beat 4 and go straight to beat 1 of the next line...thats just a sneak preview of the next line...

**recap...we threw the fader from left to right and skipped beat 4 on the left deck and went to beat 1 of the next line on the right deck...

...now, on beat 2 on the right deck, throw the fader back over to the left deck, and you will bounc back to the same beat one you had just played on the right deck...thats basically it...

...this effect works great at the beginning of a verse...on snare drums....

if a song went....drum,drum,drum,snare...drum,drum,drum,snare...
a chop could make it go...drum,drum,snare,snare...

Jay-Z........99 problems
chopped......9-99 problems and a chop aint one, hit me

Thats the chop...the "screw" part, is nothing more than a tempo/pitch adjustment...some love it, some hate it...i usually go with like -12...love it...but the chopping is a cool effect either way...

aight...so yeah, holla back if you got questions...

www.yousendit.com

for the next 7 days here is an example of a classic snoop song that i screwed & chopped for those who like the audio too...



Thanks, Dub$ack. Unlike most in this discussion, I was a brand new DJ a few months back - never even touched a turntable. I have the MK5's with the RANE mixer now, and this really helped me spice up my "mixes". Plus it is easy to master and learn new techiniques from. Much respect.
At 5:22 PM 24 June 2008
Donavan wrote
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yeah man, right now im actually talking to a promotor in Houston (johnny j. i dont know if you have herd of him) for club roxy, im involved with a band that consist of a DJ and a drummer, were problably getting a gig there im also trying to spin there you know at the beggining when doors open since cool aid plays from 11-till it ends,so im out there trying to do my thing right now


Jonny J is a Good man, cool and very helpful, used to work with him when he visited my club down here in the 409. He will look after you.
At 5:18 PM 27 June 2008
Quote:
Quote:
yeah man, right now im actually talking to a promotor in Houston (johnny j. i dont know if you have herd of him) for club roxy, im involved with a band that consist of a DJ and a drummer, were problably getting a gig there im also trying to spin there you know at the beggining when doors open since cool aid plays from 11-till it ends,so im out there trying to do my thing right now


Jonny J is a Good man, cool and very helpful, used to work with him when he visited my club down here in the 409. He will look after you.


yeah,he is very helpfull, he actually got me my first gig at a club
At 11:30 PM 27 June 2008
djchope wrote
chope...sounds good man. ill have to come check you out. Fitzgeralds on the 13th. Ill def. try and make it there....good luck mannn! 100
At 1:00 AM 11 July 2008
DJ Ryno wrote
Thanks man, i hope to see you there
At 2:58 AM 11 July 2008
djchope wrote
just a thought i've had whilst reading this thread. if you put on the pitch lock on one deck wit doubles on and slow them right down (or speed them up) to create a difference in pitch, and then shuffle/flange/juggle the beats...

i'm gonna go try this now but if anyone else can make this work and its a new tech then it shall be known as "00"ing in honour of me, "00"Bass, its inventor.

let me know yeah...
At 8:04 PM 15 October 2008
00Bass wrote
its already known as blasting...
At 3:37 AM 16 October 2008
Quote:
just a thought i've had whilst reading this thread. if you put on the pitch lock on one deck wit doubles on and slow them right down (or speed them up) to create a difference in pitch, and then shuffle/flange/juggle the beats...

i'm gonna go try this now but if anyone else can make this work and its a new tech then it shall be known as "00"ing in honour of me, "00"Bass, its inventor.

let me know yeah...


+1 nice tip / trick
At 3:59 AM 17 October 2008
00Bass....nice addition to this posting...i completely forgot about that when typing this...

Donavan...no doubt...glad you could benefit from the post...
At 4:29 PM 27 November 2008
Dj Dub$ack wrote

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