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Blues Genre Still Issue in 1.8.2

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Scratch Live
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Ortofon | Serato S-120
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frost-9 1:31 AM - 14 November, 2008
Is this still a known bug? Where the genre tag will fill in as "Blues" in Serato?

DJ-A had previously posted a thread regarding this during the time I believe 1.8.1 was still out, and it was claimed this would be fixed in the "next release" which I took to be 1.8.2, unfortunately it's still broken. Any info?
Rane, Support
Chad S. 5:51 PM - 14 November, 2008
Are you using Itunes?

I've had the same thing happen to me. It was a disc that the artist burned of all his tunes. I think he burnt them in itunes to a disc for me. When he did that, by default it was labeled as blues.
frost-9 6:50 PM - 14 November, 2008
no, I'm on a PC, and all my tagging is done in a program called "Tag&Rename" ---- previously I used ID3-Tag-It which is recommended in the forum as a free tool. The genre field is left blank on most files, and it ONLY shows up in Serato. You can play the same file in an mp3 player and it will not show up as the tagged genre. Also when you try to edit it in Serato and delete the tag to "blank" it will rename itself to Blues.
frost-9 4:56 AM - 3 December, 2008
I take it this wasn't addressed in the 1.8.3 release..
Rane, Support
Chad S. 4:34 PM - 3 December, 2008
It hit me last night when I was making my radio show. I use audacity and by default when you are filling in the ID3 tag, "blues" is selected by default. What version is your ID3 tag? Is it V3.2?
frost-9 6:46 PM - 3 December, 2008
I *was* using 3.2, but now I started using something else. I don't think I'm explaining myself well. Let me try again.

- IN SERATO, and ONLY IN SERATO the tags for some files will list their genre as "BLUES" even if the file has the genre field left empty

- Opening the corresponding file in an ID3 tag editor or viewing it's ID3 tag in ANY other way will not show the "BLUES" genre listed, in fact it will show NO GENRE TAG as originally intended.

- If you attempt to delete the "BLUES" listing in the genre field IN SERATO, it will only show up again by itself the next time the file is dragged to a virtual deck.

I would be more then happy to send you one of these files that do this. I believe other people have this problem too as I've seen it listed. Why Serato is defaulting to "BLUES" is a mystery to me. Perhaps doing a search through the code for the software might reveal an answer. Obviously these files are meeting some kind of criteria from the library functionality... i.e. if '$GENRE_FIELD = null; THEN insert 'BLUES' --- or not.. lol. But seriously... something is going on.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 6:51 PM - 3 December, 2008
I'd agree with you about it might be something only Scratchlive picks up. I am not a code expert or even pretend to be. I understand what you are doing, I'm just searching for any common link between you and the others. That is all.
Serato, Forum Moderator
Nick M 9:01 PM - 3 December, 2008
Hi Frost-9,

I tried this out a couple of times, and it seems to happen to me when using ID tag version 2.2. When using v2.3, it was remaining blank, as you would expect. Try converting to that tag type and see if it works.
Rane, Support
Zach S 11:33 PM - 3 December, 2008
Read here for directions on how to strip the id3 tag and convert to 2.3 --> scratchlive.net
frost-9 10:53 PM - 6 December, 2008
thanks guys, will give it a shot..
frost-9 10:54 PM - 6 December, 2008
Zach -> what about people that don't use iTunes? How do you strip a tag?
Rane, Support
Chad S. 12:42 AM - 9 December, 2008
you can still use itunes to strip it. You don't have to use it for anything other than that.
frost-9 9:21 PM - 30 December, 2008
Hey Chad, sorry I haven't replied in so long. I really want to avoid itunes like a dieter avoids carbs. I literally loathe the software as it's completely proprietary bloat-ware, that Apple forces people to use. One would think that them forcing people to use "their" software is a little off-message for the folks at Apple, but whatever, let's not get too off topic.

I'm going to try and find a way to strip the tags without itunes and I'll let you know if that works.
Rane, Support
Chad S. 10:40 PM - 30 December, 2008
cheers man. good luck, let me know ;)
frost-9 3:28 AM - 13 March, 2009
OK, running 1.9 PB3 and this is still an issue. I have tags using ID3v2.3 and still, serato will assign them with "Other" or "Blues" as the genre on certain files. Still not sure what is causing that to happen. I've removed entire tags from files, and it continues to do it.